I noticed your discussion on this matter.
I was invited to cover this particular area at "The Arctic - Mirror of Life" symposium which was convened by His Excellency Kofi Annan (the former United Nations' Secretary General) and His Excellency Jose Manuel Barroso (the President of European Commission) and HAH Bartholomaios I in Nuuk, Greenland, September 2007 for the Group B Nations. I am underlying some aspects one might induce the triggering of volcanic eruptions based on discussions at the UN about the impact of melting ice on the ground below. As a starter it is necessary to read this report to give a brief overview into the subject: http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114981650181275742-sOx58NXvfKz2szefZXutgTSbaDI_20070608.html?mod=rss_free FURTHER INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND HERE: The above ice-volcano (crust and lithosphere) teleconnections are behind even larger scale processes suggested by Group B Nations to UN General Assembly: Please note that the Frozen Isthmuses' Protection Campaign (FIPC) deals with geophysical evidencing for the World Indigenous Nations Summit's complaint to the United Nations' General Assembly, the Group B of Nations complaint (UNGA-101292) which disputes the causative, duration and termination of the ice age and re-allocates ice-age events to large geothermal fluctuations on the Iceland - Jan Mayen section of the Mid Atlantic Ridge. Group B Nations: Large Ice-Volcano-Sea Level Coupling to UN General Assembly: The Group B of Nations complaint to the UN General Assembly suggest that the cause of ice age events lies in a destabilised Icelandic hot spot that rapidly heated the sea water of the North Atlantic Ocean. This induced a rapid, massive precipitation event as sea level fell and the ice accumulated on lands, leading to a feedback loop where more volcanic rocks seeped out in runaway venting: the "mega-Surtsey event". For this reason, Group B Nations aspire carrying out a short-life cosmogenic radio isotopic carbon-14 testing from a pre-glaciation era biodetritus from under Greenland's ice dome to prove their large ice-volcano connections (in an attempt to "dismiss" the 500 kyr orbital forcing propagated by the Western Nations) as the cause of the ice age which they claim was very short. 'Polarity Reversion' Not Cause of Magnetic Pole Migration but Greenland's Ice Sheet Mass Balance Changes Injecting Non-Conductive Minerals into the Faraday's Cage: The Group B rejects claim that an impending Magnetic Field Polarity Reversion event, which last occurred 870,000 years ago, caused the 2000-2007 suddenly escalating migration of the Magnetic North Pole. Group B is of view, the alteration of Greenland's ice sheet mass balance makes the base of lithosphere (under Greenland) to hammer non-conductive minerals into the heavier, electrically-active, Faraday's Cage of the Earths Core below. The injection of non-conductive material from beneath Greenland then causes the Faraday's Cage to reduce its electrical conductivity. The electric currents re-route to go around Greenland where good electrical conductivity is still found. (Ultra-thin, electrically-active Faraday's Cage of the Earth's Core forms a layer where the internal repulsion of the electrons are in equilibrium with the constrained outward expansion due the falling electric conductivity and increasing resistance of the overlying, lighter density minerals.) Other Coupling/Teleconnections Effects from Changes in Greenland Ice Sheet: Group B: The recent changes in Greenland's gravity field are also due to mechanical transportation of materials from base of lithosphere in combination with weight loss (or increase) of ice sheet. The lighter, non-conductive, materials loosened into the Faraday's Cage 'resurface' at the base of the isostatically rebounding lithosphere base under the Hudson Bay area while the conductive, metallic materials fall further into (and below) the Faraday's Cage. The magnetic polarity fluctuations are not only affected, but the mechanical transmission across FC junction varies earth's spin as the base of lithosphere hammers differently into the faster-spinning core below. Since 1999 this results leap seconds as the observed rotation on surface reflects variability of the bottommost layers where 'promoted earthquakes' become the question of 'altered spin' as surface ice melts. Getting Volcanoes to Erupt in Massive Stratospheric Ejaculation Whether or not Group B large scale ice-volcano coupling exist, the ice-volcano connections might theoretically be deployed to trigger volcanic eruptivity, but the problem is still how to get the stuff to rise out to the stratosphere. This issue of inadequate eruption is aptly coming on the climatic assessment for 2010's below: "A study by Doug Smith and four colleagues at the Hadley Centre forecast that global temperatures will rise by a likely 0.3 degrees Celsius above the 2004 level by 2014 but it would appear likely that there will be a jump in temperature in 2010 though global temperature will continue to rise thereafter. ... Dr Smith estimates that global temperature will be about 0.15 degrees Celsius above the 2004 level by 2010. My best estimate, if no massive volcano puts dust into the Stratosphere, is that the global temperature will be 0.25 degrees Celsius above 2004 in 2014 though obviously this is only an estimate. This is about 0.75 degrees Celsius warmer than the global temperature up until 1976 for 2014. In recent years the global temperature has been half a degree Celsius warmer than it was up until 1976 though it has barely warmed at all recently. 2008 started off quite cool mainly because of a powerful La Nina Event. The eleven year sunspot cycle is near its nadir at present (mid 2008) and will peak late in 2012. Global temperatures rise very slightly to the peak of a cycle and fall to its nadir though these effects are small compared to the effects of anthropogenic Global Warming. This La Nina event has just disappeared. One effect of these events is that they cool the planet. Hence when the Southern Oscillation returns to a neutral state as is now happening the planet will warm slightly. This will add to the warming as a result of the sunspot cycle moving towards its maximum. Should there not be a very large volcano which puts enough dust into the Stratosphere to cool the planet for a few years then this, combined with warming as a result of anthropogenic Global Warming, will probably cause 2010 to be the warmest year globally on record and this should have serious negative consequences for global ecology and humanity." John Davies, 23 October 2008 As per the above, it does not sound not too promising to manipulate volcanic eruptions. But if one wants to try, the best bit would be to try to break mountain glaciers or ice sheets. Lubricating glaciers could speed them up and thus increase 'promoted volcanoes' and sadly 'promoted earthquakes' as well. With kind regards, Veli Albert Kallio, FRGS > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:05:27 -0700 > Subject: [geo] Re: this is probably just ridiculous > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > There is no way to cause a volcanic eruption or for that matter, to > prevent one. The forces that control magma movement are miles below > the surface and beyond the reach of any human technology. When a > volcano erupts, that is the end of a process, not the beginning. > > Undersea volcanoes would only produce aerosols if the gases reached > the surface. I doubt most of them have much of an effect as they are > not explosive enough to send gases into the stratosphere. Here is an > article about the recent eruption of an undersea volcano in Tonga: > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/19/undersea-tongan-volcano-d_n_177005.html > The impacts are mostly local. > > On Apr 21, 8:54 pm, Andrew Lockley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Bearing in mind that volcanoes seem to do a pretty good job of cooling the > > planet, could you trigger them artificially? Perhaps drilling holes in > > them, moving scree off their cones or just blowing them up would do the > > trick? > > Here's some thoughts on the > > subject:http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/questions/question/2019/ > > > > I couldn't find any 'serious' research on this with a brief spot of > > googling. > > > > As an aside, do undersea volcanoes help cool the planet by altering the > > sulfur cycle and creating aerosols? > > > > A > > _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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