Hi Angelia,

 

Did you receive invitation to join Indianice?  I tried to enter directly, but 
then I don't know how does it generate the links that you can easily open. So, 
I re-sent as invitation.

 

I am geophysically arguing the case that the Amerindian recollections of the 
ice age are historically valid recollections. The idea of the project is to 
collect them, asses how the events probably unfolded the way the old 
recollectoions say, and then experimentally test them out to make matter of 
opinion and tradition to become fully proven fact and history.

 

You should have received a copy of which was sent today to Indianice and 
Geoengineering. I used it as opportunity to argue, geophysically, once again, 
the World Indigenous Nations' Summit plea to the United Nations' General 
Assembly to investigate Amerindian histories of the ice age coming and going 
and the global warming and climate change killing people.

 

That request was presented to the United Nations' General Assembly, "the House 
of Mica", Honourable late Thomas Becenyala of the faith-keeper of the Hopi 
Nation and the motion was seconded by Honourable Oren Lyons, the chief of the 
Six Nations. The request for investigation and further meeting was never 
followed by the United Nations, showing that there is a terrible element of 
talk show how the UN General Assembly works. Much said on the floor, but 
nothing is then followed up. 16 years have passed since Becenyala's warning.

 

There are certain elements of divine things, mysteries. However, I need to be 
extremely careful and play down over-anticipations as there are army sceptics 
that will try to attack.

 

I think the actions speaks for the word and I 100% think there are sufficient 
evidence to substitute and fully validate the Amerindian ideas of the big 
transitions around the ice age and that we are now impending to severe climatic 
mayhem unseen since the ice age.

 

We need to get His Excellency President Evo Morales into this as well as 
rallying the Amerindian nations for the cause because we are here trying to 
prove their most ancient recollections to prove that in the overall these are 
true recollections what went on before the white men arrived to America. 

 

 

Every nation has contributed a piece of information to writing of world's 
history. Isn't it amazing that if the Amerindian nations occupied 1/3 of the 
world's entire land mass (the two Americas) that they have absolutely nothing 
to contribute to the writing of the past of our planet?

 

I perceive there is a social exclusion of the Amerindian people's from the 
world affairs that amounts to the ongoing cultural genocide. When the UN did 
not follow up, even attempt to, the World Indigenous Nation's Summit's 
recommendations and the closing plenary request I think this resulted from the 
"cultural illiteracy" by the UN General Assembly and that the UN should employ 
experts on different cultures to give it advice so that requests are acted on.

 

I also feel that there is an element of "spoon-feeding" what is important in 
the Amerindian history. Have you ever noted how the Amerindian UNESCO World 
Heritage Sites are allocated? The white expert archeologists' from the 
universities drew a shortlist of interesting-looking real Amerindian estates 
(properties), i.e. in Arizona. The focus is 100% on the real estate 
architechture, without any consideration that most Amerindian people were 
either hunters or nomadic people than urbanised culture with the corn 
agriculture.

 

 

UNESCO is only interested in white men's values: the real estates and who sowed 
the seed first to grow corn. Sarcastically, one could think that the only 
contribution and significant invention of the Amerindian nations were corn 
agriculture that led to Kelloggs' Corn Flakes! Thus the focus in always on 
inclusion of the Amerindian ruins, the real estates, like white man are today. 
(Note that in Finland and Russia we still have nomadic herders in economy.)

 

A good example of absolutely terrifying omission and bias is with the Menominee 
tribe. They lived around the McKenzie Island (I need to check from files exact 
names not to mix up). This island is just under the gravel mound which 
collapsed when the Lake Agazzis collapsed into St. Lawrence. The Lake Agazzis 
was formed at the end of the ice age when the thin snow fields melted and 
formed a huge ocean like melt water lake in front of the Laurentide Ice Sheet. 
Most of the Menominee tribe villages were washed out by this immense freezing 
water, but some were running uphill on McKenzie Island's hill and other nearby 
hills when the continental sea of meltwater bursted. Some people climbed onto 
the trees as the water was running deep everywhere, much alike during the 
tsunami in the Indian Ocean when people climbed to the trees and telegraph 
poles to avoid being swept by the current. 

 

I have complained to the UNESCO that why the Younger Dryas' Point (YDP) is not 
included as UNESCO World Heritage Site because when this huge glacial lake 
bursted its banks into St. Lawrence, its impact was global, not a local one. 
The cold meltwater cooled the climate and reduced the sea salinity, even Europe 
was turned back into tundra-like cold conditions. The Menominee say that this 
drainage of the huge lake created the Great Lakes region as we know from ever 
since. So, why on earth this mountain where Menominee ran for safety for their 
lives, when the earth-shaking collapse of the Lake Agazzis occurred is not 
UNESCO World Heritage Site. Only because the site does not have expensive 
Amerindian real estate! 

 

Poor Menominee tribes, never mind, they withnessed the biggest event to change 
the world history for perhaps millennia and created the Great Lakes as the 
excess water disappeared, the Younger Dryas Point is of no importance for the 
world as there are no golden treasures or expensive real estate, temples, built 
onto this site that changed the world, only memory.

 

 

The National Hopi Convention of 1945 (or 1947?) was a brilliant effort to bring 
all the Hopi experts to put together their faith, traditions and recollections 
of the past. This may have been spurred in the immediate aftermath of the 
Second World War when many people died and the Hopi nation's elders became 
worried that the knowledge of the past what their nation knew about the 
American continent was precious and to be preserved for the posterity. As per 
the national Hopi convention, the 75 leading Hopi academia selected 4 elders to 
become the faith-keepers of the nation whose last surviving original keeper was 
Honourable faith-keeper Thomas Becenyala who presented the key national 
tradition to UN. 

 

I think Becenyala was a brilliant academic in the Hopi way of knowing things 
and organising as the culture of the nation put it and it is therefore 
disgraceful that the UN has not acted. 16 years have passed and we could have 
had much climatic action implemented if he had been given a fair hearing at the 
time and the UN had promptly and fairly followed his speech on 10th Decemeber 
1992 to close the World Indigenous Nations' Summit raising the concern of the 
ice age being much more sudden and violent event than the West thinks.

 

If you can expediate to rectify this terrible omission and put the matters 
right for the Amerindian nations. Had we started to look at sudden sea level 
surges back in 1992, we might have been able to avoid the melt down of the sea 
ice of the Arctic Ocean and the North Pole's floating sea ice cap. At this 
point, such success is far from being guaranteed. And if the other Amerindian 
recollection of the all land marks covering snow cap suddenly sliding into the 
sea is anywhere right, then we are not in good expectation what shall happen to 
Greenland in the post-sea ice Arctic.

 

 

As I have seen the idea of the film project, I would follow the structure 
broadly what Honourable Thomas Becenyala roughly suggested to United Nations 
General Assembly:

 

1) Part 1: First to collect and then animate the stories for the documentary.

 

2) Part 2: Seek geophysical explanations how these may have happened in the past

 

              - check out for the short-life cosmogenic radioisotope under 
Greenland ice 

              - check out for the speed how the Sunken Cities became 'Pompeii 
in Water'

              - check ouf for the instability of coastal rocks at Melville Bay 
area. 

              - other experiments not disclosed until we are ready so others 
don't steal ideas

 

3) Part 3: Venture out to expeditoions to prove or dismiss the hypotheses above

 

4) Part 4: Make forecast what will happen to Greenland ice and when if case 
proven

 

5) Part 5: Propose preparations for sudden sea surges

 

              - try geoengineering solutions to halt the ongoing destrution of 
North Pole ice

              - store food articles, medicines and fuel on elevated grouds - 
out of water reach

              - draft national re-housing plan to resettle the displaced people 
orderly

              - re-inforce international co-operation to overcome coastal 
flooding disruption

              - protect by sea wall dangerous chemical, waste and nuclear 
facilities

              - protect national libraries, galleries & archives to keep them 
from water's reach 

              - in the UK to keep the Channel Tunnel entrances dry (when ports 
are flooded)

              - secure fuel supplies for agriculture, food distribution and 
emergency services

              - 10% overproduction for national food storage / 10% for 
international storage

              - continue climate change: continue to move economy to renewable 
power

              - continue climate change: continue to move economy to 
sustainable transport 

              - create artificial coastal habitats that sea surges cannot 
destroy, biodiversity 

 

 

I can't see anything better Honourable Thomas Becenyala and Honourable Oren 
Lyons would have wanted United Nations' Genereral Assembly to do about their 
ice age history.

 

If you can deliver these things, then I think we are all better off to face our 
common future

(on a more knowlegeable basis of the past as well, of course).

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Veli Albert Kallio, FRGS


 
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:55:34 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Deal Memo / Film Documentary
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> 
> 
> Good morning Larry & Veli. 
> 
> A moment to clarify, especially for Veli, of whom I must not assume as having 
> knowledge of procedure for progressing film documentary. 
> 
> Signing off literally refers to an official written (email is fine) 
> acknowledgment from all committed individuals currently involved with 
> project. Especially as it pertains to those involved in coordinating and 
> those of whom may participate actively and professionally both as experts and 
> distributors. I am not sure to what extent the BBC is or may have 
> involvement. Or Cousteau for that matter. Perhaps they have no commitment but 
> only interest. But to go forward, if they are committed without their 
> approval or knowledge and consent would be counter productive. As Executive 
> Producer or one of them (I see Veli as Exec. Prod), it would fall to that 
> position, as well as to the Producers, to run point with all other 
> individuals involved in the development of the project.
> 
> The deal memo is a simple matter. Wording is not contractual. That comes 
> later. It simply states that the principals agree to authorize my activities 
> on behalf of the project as it relates to finance, distribution, talent and 
> coordinating public relations. I am fully capable of providing these 
> elements. It would be my honor to progress a project such as this. Thus said, 
> I have declared my intent. Now, I must have approval. A contract would entail 
> defining my compensation (film credit, participation, compensation - salary 
> and/or a percentage of finance for budget, considered a broker fee of about 
> 2%. These elements are negotiable and determined by budget) 
> 
> Budget is determined by locations, travel expenses for film crew, 
> pre-production (assembling necessary elements before going to camera), salary 
> for all staffers including talent and experts, equipment rentals, post 
> editing, and promotions (which we split costs with the distributor). 
> Locations would have to be determined. An experienced line producer assembles 
> costs and oversees. An accounting firm holds the project finance dollars and 
> legally distributes the funds to cover the budget costs. 
> 
> Promotion should entail an international reach of interviews arranged on all 
> the major talk shows and news programs. Celebrity endorsements and Expert 
> commentary would participate. Interviews. Radio, print, and internet as well. 
> Press releases. This topic is hot right now in America but the public would 
> be shocked to learn to what extent our planet is facing danger. Thus putting 
> all residents in danger. When I read that over 60% of the population might 
> experience catistrophic endangerment in only a few years at the rate of melt 
> at the polar caps...it really is like the movie 'The Day After Tomorrow'. I 
> can understand the government wanting to shelter the public from chaos and 
> panic, but I disagree. The clock is ticking. Citizens of the world must be 
> informed. 
> 
> Veli, when you mentioned the involvement of the American Indian tribes going 
> before the UN unheeded, a chill went up my spine. Years ago, I read about 
> tribal predictions that stated just such action. It has been reported that 
> the world will deny their wisdom until the very last moment of impending doom 
> but in desperation all nations will give them a seat and voice to correct 
> imbalance. These predictions were issued over one hundred years ago. My great 
> grandmother was Cherokee. My significant other is Apache. My roots to this 
> culture run deep as well as connections to various tribes. Even though the 
> American Indians are considered sovereign nations within the boundries of the 
> United States, they have never had official voice in the U.N. Now this news 
> lends credibility to the predictions. That and the birth of the white 
> buffalo, which has occurred. I know many stories that would bear evidence 
> towards scientific study and discovery. 
> 
> Have not received written response from Roland Emmerich (who is neck deep in 
> post on his new movie I was told. He will review at the earliest and respond 
> accordingly.) nor have I heard from Tom Hanks or Di Caprio.
> 
> In the interim, I intend to contact an associate who is U2's tour manager to 
> see if I might gain audience and support from Bono. Will let you know.
> 
> There you have it. Please let me know how it is going on both of your ends. 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Angelia Evans
> 310-867-5755 cell (Los Angeles)
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 4/22/09, Larry Donovan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Larry Donovan <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Deal Memo / Film Documentary
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: "Albert Kallio" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 4:56 AM
> > Hi Angelia, I hear what you are saying. Will work toward
> > getting principals
> > to sign off. Thanks.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Larry
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Angelia Evans
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Happy to comply but only after principals sign off.
> > i.e. Veli mentioned BBC
> > > and Cousteau. I am sure they are moving ahead with
> > speed. Can't make the
> > > connect without authorization from parties involved.
> > They may already have
> > > deals in place. Discovery is nessasary. I can help.
> > Treatment must be
> > > approved. Again define your desire for credits. Do not
> > want to step on
> > > anyone's toes. Want to follow protocol. Is
> > distribution in place? You write
> > > a treatment for episodes. Only a suggestion...consider
> > film documentary for
> > > theatrical release with licensing to cable channels
> > like Discovery, National
> > > Geographic, HBO. Larger audience. Better PR. More
> > attention. International
> > > promos.
> > > Angelia
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Larry Donovan
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Larry Donovan
> > <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Deal Memo
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Cc: "Albert Kallio"
> > <[email protected]>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 1:49 PM
> > > > Hi Angelia,
> > > >
> > > > Hope your day is going well. Would have the text
> > of a draft
> > > > deal memo that
> > > > you could forward for our review? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Larry Donovan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
> 

_________________________________________________________________
Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free.
http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/
--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"geoengineering" group.
To post to this group, send email to [email protected]
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
[email protected]
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en
-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

Reply via email to