Why is this not unreasonable? Energy systems developed under ARPA-E funding
are at least 25 years away and implementation may take enormous funding that
may not be available to any and certainly not to all. Geo can be implemented
much earlier and at lower cost. 

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Subject: [geo] Re: Is this what an energy revolution looks like?


My understanding was that albedo modification and related options were
intentionally placed outside the scope of ARPA-E.

Rumor has it that that was one of the compromises made in getting ARPA- E
funded. This is rumor and I have no direct documentation of this.

A not unreasonable decision was made to focus on energy systems and exclude
climate intervention systems.





On Aug 4, 8:55 am, Ning Zeng <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am among those who received such a rejection letter from ARPA-E for 
> a proposal on carbon sequestration. In defense of such a high 
> rejection rate, the $150M divided by average grant size of $2M leaves 
> you 75 projects (divided by 3500 that gives you about 2%). So being 
> 'discouraged' for an 8-page concept paper saves you effort on a 50-75 
> page full proposal that eventually gets rejected.
>
> Alvia: you are absolutely right, truely transformational work doesn't 
> really get funded through such mechanism which usually ends of funding 
> established groups and ideas. I doubt ARPA-E would fund anything 
> geoengineering in the near future.
>
> Best Regards!
> -Ning
> --
> Prof. Ning Zeng
> Dept. of Atmospheric and Oceanic Science and Earth System Science 
> Interdisciplinary Center     Phone: (301)
> 405-5377
> University of Maryland                            Fax: (301) 314-9482
> 2417 Computer and Space Sciences Building         Email:
> [email protected]
> College Park, MD  20742-2425, USA                
> http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~zeng
>
> On Aug 3, 8:47 am, Andrew Revkin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Here's an ARPA-E rejection letter.  98% of those pursuing energy
>
>


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