Dear Mike MacCracken; Thank you for your reply and your comments, especially concerning the geothermal industry.
I know there may be others in this group who over the years may have faced some of these circumstances I will quickly gloss over. In 2007, I sent letters to the industry seeking proprietary agreements so I could present to them MEGS Technology. The bottom line? Not one response. I have set on this now for over two years. Sometimes when you deal with oil and gas companies, they want you to sign agreements where you have basically no rights for recourse. The bottom line? They take your technology and then say take us on. I took them on, and they nickeled and dimed me until I lost my home and everything I had. Why? Because he who has the gold makes the rules. If you will notice, I told the U.S. government up front that I would like to align with them concerning MEGS Technology. Why? Because they just might be honest enough and have the clout to keep others from taking my technology. This is why a group of free thinkers like the geoengineering group is important. This is why I use only this group to spend my time with. We must continue to up-lift each other and move in the right direction, especially, for those of us who continue to roll the dice for all the right reasons. Mike, thank you once again for your input, it is appreciated. Johnnie Buttram On Oct 25, 7:57 pm, Mike MacCracken <[email protected]> wrote: > You might want to visit Iceland, where they already take advantage of heat > from lava. Basically, the use steam and boiling water to power turbines for > electricity, then pipe the hot water something like 40 km to Reykjavik > (losing only 1 C on the way) to provide heat to homes (and maybe to heat > water) and then pipe it under their roads to melt ice (they don't have > enough people to have some devoted to snowplow duty--they need them all > working to earn income). > > I did visit one person who focuses on such things who in his office had a > lava filled pipe that had occurred after drilling down to lava to provide > heated water (as I recall). > > I would also note that there is a rather large geothermal heat industry here > in the US. > > In any case, at least start your thinking with the experts. > > Mike MacCracken > > On 10/25/09 4:49 PM, "Johnnie Buttram" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Gordon; > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > Yes, what you propose could be done within a proper setting. > > However, the factors and variables involved would be of major > > significance. > > > On page #2 - although lava forms a thin surface crust in just a > > few minutes, the flow underneath the crust can take several > > months and years to cool. > > > An extreme example is a lava flow that erupted in 1959 and filled > > a pit crater about 280 feet thick. It was drilled in 1988, and there > > was some mushy, not quite solid stuff down at the bottom, 29 > > years after it erupted. > > > Speaking in relative terms, I personally believe with approximately > > 600 active volcanos on the planet and somewhere between 50 > > to 60 erupting each year, this concept has the potential to provide > > a new direction that could be beneficial to our planet. > > > Especially, when we consider the lava and water are basically > > a no-charge and the cost of pipe configurations and labor would > > be a small price to pay for limitless BTUs with small carbon foot- > > prints. > > > My first primary objective is to hopefully use this concept to provide > > distilled/potable water to the masses. This could be manufactured > > on site and floated to the end users in giant Nordic transport bags. > > > The second objective is to manufacture Hydrogen to be used by > > the shipping industry to lower their huge carbon footprints. I haven't > > had the time as yet to pursue this direction. > > > Both objectives may be realized with the manufacturing occuring > > from special barges right off the coasts of power source. This way > > the operation can move on anytime with no loss of major > > infrustructure. > > > In closing, Eugene, I want to thank you again for your creative input. > > > Sincerely, > > > Johnnie Buttram > > > On Oct 25, 12:52 pm, "Eugene I. Gordon" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mr. Bittram. > > >> In any case I am not sure this is the right group but here is a comment. > > >> If the lava gives up its heat to the pipes and cools and is a good > >> insulatorthen it insulates the pipes from the surrounding hot lava. How do > >> you continue to get energy from the lava? My instinct says let surface lava > >> drip into a pool of water and give up its heat to the water to produce > >> superheated steam, which is then pumped to turbine generators to produce > >> electrical power. Lots of technical problems. > > >> Eugene I. Gordon > > >> (908) 233 4677 > > >> [email protected] > > >>www.germgardlighting.com > > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johnnie Buttram > >> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:19 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [geo] . . . (c) MEGS Technology . . . > > >> Dear Geo-group; > > >> Please take a look at the attached no-carbon concept > > >> that captures heat from basaltic lava and turns it into > > >> viable energy and potable water for the masses. > > >> I will appreciate any comments or suggestions you > > >> may have. > > >> . . . Thank you for your time and expertise. > > >> Johnnie Buttram- > >> Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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