just on a point of fact, indulgences werent meant to stop you from sinning. They allowed you to carry on sinning and still get to heaven without having to spend the penance time in purgatory.
-which makes it an even better parallel!! john gorman cradle and practising catholic -incidently ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andree or Richard Wilson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "geoengineering" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: [geo] Re: carbon trading > > We must continuously emphasize the problem is that we are NOT properly > carbon trading. We are trading some (but not all) emissions. There > are many exceptions. The carbon offset market is a dangerous market. > The fallacy of a market in offsets was exposed by Martin Luther seral > centuries ago when he objected to the Pope selling indulgencies to keep > people out of sin. > > Whatever we agree to as a compromise to try to get something happening, > we must always base it on fundamentals. > It is not carbon emissions that cause global warming. It is carbon > concentrations. > When there is not a clear, simple, and definite procedure, it will be > the biggest polluters who use their power to get exceptions > In the US we have before the House a pork barrel bill with a slight > veneer of climate change. Some experts such as Jim Hansen think that > it is dangerious and that it should be abandoned and start again > > But I urge all academics who are involved in this business > Always start with the fundmentals in any discussion that will be seen by > the uneducated public (that means everyone but you) > NEVER let an opportunity pass to chide someone on letting the big guys > get way with it. > > Let us start with Scotland. particularly Edinburgh which is thwe > caoital and go on to Glagow which has the capital and also the memory of > William Thompson , Lord kelvin, who would be horrified at what is > happening. > > Dick WILSON > Department of Physics > Harvard University > (who remembers the cold nights of coal rationing in 1947...) > > > On 11/5/2009 1:07 PM, Stephen Salter wrote: >> Hi All >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/05/friends-of-the-earth-attacks-carbon-trading >> >> has a story about the dismal failure but high profitability of the $126 >> billion carbon trading market. >> >> Stephen >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
