I thought the Russian experiments were interesting not because they  
represented such great science but rather because they introduce an  
important new dimension into the discussion of governance, or lack  
thereof, of small scale field experiments.

It is not clear to me that their experiments required any governance  
beyond normal domestic environmental safeguards that govern all  
scientific investigations.

Some have suggested that there be a moratorium on field tests until  
international norms governing such tests can be established. However,  
for a case like this conducted entirely within national boundaries it  
is not obvious why they would need or want approval of anyone beyond  
their national authorities or why they would want to delay research  
until international norms could be developed.

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A few years ago, Yuri izrael mentioned to me that he was conducting  
some experiments but I didn't know what to make of his comments and he  
was not very forthcoming on details.

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To answer your question about Australia: about one-third of my  
research program is devoted to ocean acidification studies.  We were  
attempting to document effects of ocean acidification on a coral reef  
at One Tree Island through geochemical approaches to estimating  
calcification, etc, through effects on water chemistry.

Ken

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On Dec 18, 2009, at 13:33, Oliver Wingenter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Ken,
>
> Thanks for the paper.  It shows the Russian's resolve.  The  
> American's and other have been studying similar experiments, however  
> we just use using ship tracks and other observations to study the  
> Twomey, Albrecht and other indirect aerosol effects.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Oliver Wingenter
>
> PS I guess you are still in Australia and that's why you are not at  
> this year's AGU.  What are you doing the there?  Field work?
>
> Ken Caldeira wrote:
>> As noted by Chris Mooney and Dan Whaley, the paper on the Russian  
>> field test is attached.
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