Again, this is speculating about motivation, which we are not supposed to be
doing in this group.

Most journalists are trying to write factual and engaging stories. I think
journalists talk about space sunshades because (a) there is a scientific
literature about it (e.g., Early, Angel, Royal Society Report, etc), and (b)
it is an entertaining concept to think about and part of journalism is
entertainment. I do not think we need to assume nefarious political motives
in writing about this option.

I agree with you about Solar Radiation Management (sun block options)
reducing near term risk while efforts to diminish atmospheric CO2
concentrations reduce long term risk.

I have had journalists (and scientists!) talking to me as if it were the
other way around.



On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:54 PM, John Gorman <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think all of us in favour of geoengineering look upon the space sunshades
> idea as something put into articles by journalists to discredit
> geoengineering. It is totally irrelevant because it couldn't be implemented
> till very late in this century and we will have sorted out  the CO2 balance
> and energy systems by then.
>
> The time for SRM is the near future till we get CO2 extraction and non
> carbon energy sorted.
>
> john gorman
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <[email protected]>
> To: "geoengineering" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: WWF also on geo-eng Re: [geo] Re: Friends of the Earth calls
> for geoengineering research & states that mitigation is not enough to stay
> safe
>
>
>
> Ken -- Excellent post.
>
> The British Friends of the Earth statement includes the sensible line:
> “For the solar radiation techniques solar shades remains the stuff of
> children’s sci-fi films.”
>
> Geoengineering is giving itself a bad name by appearing overly
> enthusiastic about "Edward Teller" type ideas
>
> [Remember Teller -- the 'father of the H-bomb', and proposer of many
> schemes to use nuclear devices for such purposes as extracting natural
> gas from tight formations, building a new 'Panama Canal' and building
> a deep water port in the far northwestern part of Alaska.  The last of
> these lead to Inuit (Native Alaskan) self-protective reactions  with
> consequences that last to this day. The  long-term side-effects ended
> up being larger than the proposed main effect].
>
> The Sierra Club surely counts itself among organizations  supporting
> well-understood activities that sequester carbon (e.g. forests) or
> change the albedo constructively (e.g. white roofs), and supporting
> sensible research (e.g. on CCS).   This focus is implicit in the name
> or our main program:  Climate Recovery Partnership (http://
> www.sierraclub.org/crp/)
>
> Research on concepts that will lead to increased ocean acidification
> might be acceptable if married to technologies to offset those
> effects. While  "Everything is connected to everything else" is almost
> tautologically true,  connections are often small enough that they can
> be ignored.  With many geoengineering proposals -- not so.
>
> If the geoengineering community hopes to bring on board environmental
> groups, it will need good answers to the kinds of questions implied by
> the above.   There's some good thinking in the as yet small
> geoengineering literature on raising this kind of question.  There's
> as yet a dearth of compelling responses.
>
> Paul Craig
> Sierra Club
>
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