Dear Geoengineering Group, This reminds me the local scale geoengineering idea by Peter Flynn and S. Zhou of restoring the northern THC with barge-operated ice making machines... This will also modify albedo...
Regards Renaud de_RICHTER GEOENGINEERING DOWNWELLING OCEAN CURRENTS: A COST ASSESSMENT S. ZHOU and P. C. FLYNN Climatic Change, 2005, 71 (1-2), p203-220, DOI: 10.1007/ s10584-005-5933-0 Abstract. Downwelling ocean currents carry carbon into the deep ocean (the solubility pump), and play a role in controlling the level of atmospheric carbon. The formation of North Atlantic Deep Water (NADW) also releases heat to the atmosphere, which is a contributor to a mild climate in Europe. One possible response to the increase in anthropogenic carbon in the atmosphere and to the possible weakening of the NADW is modification of downwelling ocean currents, by an increase in carbon concentration or volume. This study assesses the costs of seven possible methods of modifying downwelling currents, including using existing industrial techniques for exchange of heat between water and air. Increasing carbon concentration in downwelling currents is not practical due to the high degree of saturation of high latitude surface water. Two of the methods for increasing the volume of downwelling currents were found to be impractical, and four were too expensive to warrant further consideration. Formation of thicker sea ice by pumping ocean water onto the surface of ice sheets is the least expensive of the methods identified for enhancing downwelling ocean currents. Modifying downwelling ocean currents is highly unlikely to ever be a competitive method of sequestering carbon in the deep ocean, but may find future application for climate modification. On 8 déc, 20:48, Veli Albert Kallio <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Geoengineering Group, > > For over a year now I have concentrated on occasional information relays to > Climateintervention rather than on the more demanding creative sides, due to > my other climate-related projects. However, I think this observation is > important sea ice aspect to be considered. > > I would like to draw an observation and suggest a geoengineering application > from the following statement by NSIDC on 6th Dec 2010: > > "As temperatures drop in autumn, open water areas on the Arctic coastal seas > quickly refreeze. After this rapid increase in ice extent during October, ice > growth slows in November. This November, ice extent over the entire Arctic > grew at an average rate of 74,000 square kilometres per day (28,600 miles per > day), which is slower than average. However, local weather conditions kept > ice extent very low in some locations, contributing to the low extent for the > month." NSIDC November Arctic Sea Ice Report. 6th Dec. 2010 > > From the above NSIDC statement which says that the sea ice growth is very > rapid in October, but contrarily slows down in November which is colder, I > suggest that floating cables or levees, even platforms, could act as "seeding > points" to fasten the seasonal growth of the Arctic Ocean's sea ice. This, in > particular, is important as all climate solutions that rely or require a > future presence of multi-year sea ice are doomed. However, sea ice generating > schemes that rely on seasonal ice growth to be enhanced will be more > successful. > > Perhaps this overcomes the earlier shortcomings of the suspension cabling > systems blocking the southward movement of sea ice in the Nares Straight > (Ellesemere - Hans Island - Greenland) or on the straights on the Queen > Elizabeth Islands (that bring ice to the NW Passage). Such schemes will fail > the moment the sea ice has started to melt on the north side of the sea ice > blocks. As we saw the sea ice disintegrating and opening seas on the North > Pole in July, August and September we should plan for a total sea ice loss > situation. > > NSIDC indicates clearly that all multi year ice has gone and now we are down > to thin, if not single season, ice. But either as a fixed or free-floating > cables or platforms could seed ice formation around themselves and stabilise > the sea surface for sea ice growth. Floating platforms and levees would pose > least risk for wildlife, floating mesh wire nets or cables could prove more > problematic for wild life. > > Floating net for ship would cause issues, but if we want sea ice on the North > Pole it will have to happen at the expense of some shipping. However, by area > management such a usage issues can, and must be avoided. This is nothing more > than the cloud seeding and rain harvesting to provided surfaces that then > start build up ice around themselves. > > If the sea ice could be introduced 4 weeks earlier, say from November to > October in higher seas, this would mean a thicker ice for the spring and more > sunlight reflection for the following season. The sea ice creation will be > enhanced by this. > > Also, as a refresher of some earlier discussions in the past, please note > that in the cold and dark autumn conditions (just like in seas around > Antarctica), the breaking-up of sea ice itself tends to seed the rapid ice > area growth. These conditions are much stronger in Antarctica due to the > reverse arrangement of continents to ocean, but can be seen also at times > working also in the Arctic Ocean. > > In the warming-up of the spring season, the effect of sea ice break up is the > opposite (as ocean has been mopping up heat). Russian government and the Far > East Shipping Company (FESCO) calls this kind of sea ice manipulation to make > the sea ice melt faster (sea ice demolition) as "ice chipping" and these > operations are carried out at Amurskaya Bay area every year to cut sea ice > off following coastline by driving ice breaker along precise coastal margins > in suitable wind conditions for loosened ice to escape to a warmed-up ocean > to disappear and let the albedo to take over the better weather. > > Please give comments, I would like to see our group turning up new ideas like > in the heydays in the past. > > Kind regards, > > Albert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en.
