John,

As a layperson following the forum, my personal beliefs concerning your questions are:

1) I now believe that Bright Water can be used in a localized, targeted and prescribed manner. This would take funding for an accelerated and highly focused campaign in both vessel design/construction and advanced microbubble production/surfactant research. The latter requires many considerations and trials.

2) Known atmospheric CCS methods would be difficult to use for methane. However, here is a link to a group you may be interested in http://www.methanenet.org/blogs/ch4-removal-and-climate-change-mitigation Highly educational, John!

Air capture is "spendy" and "tough". Basically. keeping it out of the air is more cost effective than taking it out of the air. And, I am sure you know that, John.

3) Exploration/Drilling for methane hydrates has become an active interest to the DoE and you can get an overview of the work in that area here. http://fossil.energy.gov/programs/oilgas/hydrates/

As far as mining atmospheric methane, see #2

As far as your statement that "The methane problem in the Arctic has come to a head".... whose head are you referring to?

As far as your statement that" Significant quantities of methane are already appearing in the Arctic atmosphere", How Would You Know?

Thanks for the challenging questions, John.





On Apr 28, 2011 3:31am, John Nissen <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,

The methane problem in the Arctic has come to a head. There is sufficient carbon trapped in permafrost to cause a multiplication of global warming by many times (at least 40 times according to my first tentative calculation). It is critical how fast this positive feedback gets going. Significant quantities of methane are already appearing in the Arctic atmosphere.


Albert Kallio points out the methane lingers, hence the local greenhouse gas effect can be significant. Thus the build up of positive feedback on Arctic warming can grow, even before the global warming feedback gets going. If we don't solve this problem, we may never have a chance to solve the other crises which beset us.


I have long advocated SRM to cool the Arctic but this could be too late to stop the methane release into the atmosphere. We are now left with the "mission impossible" to stop the methane. We need urgent brainstorming on this.


For example, could the Bright Water idea be applied to the East Siberian Sea?

Could CCS ideas be applied to methane, as or after its release into the atmosphere?

Could the methane be "mined" in some way?


Cheers,

John (on holiday for another week)






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