Sounds like another case for the quote from Robert Samuelson (economist)
"The trouble with the global warming debate is that it
has become a moral crusade when it's really an engineering problem. The
inconvenient truth is that if we don't solve the engineering problem, we're
helpless."
john gorman (engineer)
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From: "John Latham" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:09 PM
Subject: RE: [geo] Ethics of Geoengineering (anything new?)
Hello Ken et al,
Not having an undergraduate degree in Philosophy, and my
involvement with the subject being confined to participating in
demonstrations and marches led by Bertrand Russell in the
1950/1960s, I am not competent to challenge or comment on
any of the specific points Ken raises.
But I wonder whether - since geoengineering is related to issues
concerned with a novel situation: the possible extinction of many
of Earth's life-forms and associated massive planetary disruption
- there may be philosophical questions hitherto not recognised or
fully examined, perhaps not thought to be important or valid, which
could profitably be addressed now.
I do not know the answer to this question.
All Best Wishes, John.
John Latham
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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on
behalf of Ken Caldeira [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [geo] Ethics of Geoengineering (anything new?)
Having but an undergraduate degree in Philosophy, you can forgive me for
asking stupid questions, but ...
Does geoengineering raise any ethical issues not already considered by
historical figures such as Aristotle, Hume, Kant, and so on?
Isn't the ethics of making decisions that affect others not involved in
making the decisions a problem as old as humanity?
I just don't understand how there is anything new here for philosophy.
Surely there are difficult decisions to be made with moral dimensions, but I
just can't imagine how geoengineering could pose fundamentally new
philosophic problems.
Perhaps someone can compensate for my failure of imagination and tell me in
what way geoengineering poses fundamentally new philosophic problems not
previously addressed.
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Ken Caldeira
Carnegie Institution Dept of Global Ecology
260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA
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[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab @kencaldeira
Currently visiting Institute for Advanced Sustainability Studies
(IASS)<http://www.iass-potsdam.de/>
and Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Resarch
(PIK)<http://www.pik-potsdam.de/> in Potsdam, Germany.
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Andrea Gammon
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The Mansfield Center for Ethics and Public Affairs at the University of
Montana (with support from the National Science Foundation) is pleased to
announce the launch of the Ethics of Geoengineering Online Resource Center.
We have attempted to make this an exhaustive resource for materials,
organizations, and events related to geoengineering and ethics. We will
continue to work to make the site increasingly comprehensive, accessible,
and engaging. We welcome feedback and suggestions about significant
resources that are not yet included. Please bring to our attention any
papers, events, and other media you think may be missing.
Visit the site at:
<https://ch1prd0102.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=OWAMf8GxrUmH3DmLPhvEmRVCg4-F5s4Ia3rgDEllyFha_7YuC8CjtGrFU9mOVuqXWwDCLmctAsw.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.umt.edu%2fethics%2fresourcecenter%2fdefault.php>
http://www.umt.edu/ethics/resourcecenter/default.php
Please email feedback or suggestions to
<mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Thanks!
Andrea Gammon
Graduate Research Assistant, Department of Philosophy
University of Montana, '13
Christopher Preston
Associate Professor of Philosophy and Fellow at the Program on Ethics and
Public Affairs
University of Montana
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