Jim

What you and Ben Kravitz say about stratospheric SRM with sulphate will not apply to tropospheric SRM done with sea water. We would be prefer not to be accused of the drawbacks of a different technology.

Stephen



On 10/08/2012 05:50, Jim Fleming wrote:
/Thus, an obvious path to avoiding sky whitening is to greatly limit or avoid entirely the intentional introduction of sulfate particles into the stratosphere./

I agree with the avoiding part of this sentence. I live in Maine where the sky really is blue and would hate to see skies here and around the world looking white and hazy as do /"average conditions in urban areas today."/

Please remember that SRM would also attenuate starlight, so night sky viewing with sulfate geoengineering would also emulate /"average conditions in urban areas today."/ How sad. Thus, an obvious path to preserve the wonder of the night sky is to avoid entirely the intentional introduction of sulfate particles into the stratosphere.

You can argue from models or from aesthetics and culture.

I think the question mark in the title after whiter skies needs to be an exclamation point.

Jim


On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Ken Caldeira <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Folks,

    We made a YouTube video to go with a recent study on whiter
    skies led by Ben Kravitz: http://youtu.be/JO5q2UqBncA

    The underlying paper is attached and also available at:
    http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2012/2012GL051652.shtml
    (subscription required).

    The citation is:

    B. Kravitz, D.G. MacMartin, and K. Caldeira
    Geoengineering: Whiter skies?
    GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 39, L11801, 6 PP., 2012
    doi:10.1029/2012GL051652

    Best,

    Ken

    PS.  While we were at it, we made a YouTube video for a recent
    study that was led by Julia Pongratz:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRh_Zfr6A08

    Pongratz, J., and K. Caldeira, 2012:  Attribution of atmospheric
    CO2 and temperature increases to regions:  importance of
    preindustrial land use change. Environmental Research Letters,
    Vol. 7,  034001 doi:10.1088/1748-9326/7/3/034001

    That one is available without a subscription at
    http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/7/3/034001/

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    *Our YouTube videos:*
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    <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LaYCbYCxo>
    Crop yields in a geoengineered climate: Dr. Julia Pongratz
    <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhxzOUQVD38>
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