Andrew Lockley: 

I told you *not *to post this in elaboration of the link to *Nature*already 
provided - I expected you at most to  use it to replace the link if 
paywalled

Please  take this a put it where it belongs, inside the original thread 


On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:41:54 PM UTC-4, andrewjlockley wrote:
>
>
> Nuclear winter was and is debatable
> Russell Seitz
> Nature
>  
> 475,
>  
> 37
>  
> (07 July 2011)
>  
> doi:10.1038/475037b
> Published online
>  
> 06 July 2011
>
> Alan Robock's contention that there has been no real scientific debate 
> about the 'nuclear winter' concept is itself debatable 
> (Nature 473,275-276; 2011).
>
> This potential climate disaster, popularized in Science in 1983, rested on 
> the output of a one-dimensional model that was later shown to overestimate 
> the smoke a nuclear holocaust might engender. More refined estimates, 
> combined with advanced three-dimensional models (see 
> http://go.nature.com/kss8te), have dramatically reduced the extent and 
> severity of the projected cooling.
>
> Despite this, Carl Sagan, who co-authored the 1983 Science paper, went so 
> far as to posit "the extinction of Homo sapiens" (C. Sagan Foreign 
> Affairs 63, 75-77;1984). Some regarded this apocalyptic prediction as an 
> exercise in mythology. George Rathjens of the Massachusetts Institute of 
> Technology protested: "Nuclear winter is the worst example of the 
> misrepresentation of science to the public in my memory," (see 
> http://go.nature.com/yujz84) and climatologist Kerry Emanuel observed 
> that the subject had "become notorious for its lack of scientific 
> integrity" (Nature 319, 259; 1986).
>
> Robock's single-digit fall in temperature is at odds with the subzero 
> (about -25 °C) continental cooling originally projected for a wide spectrum 
> of nuclear wars. Whereas Sagan predicted darkness at noon from a US-Soviet 
> nuclear conflict, Robock projects global sunlight that is several orders of 
> magnitude brighter for a Pakistan-India conflict -- literally the difference 
> between night and day. Since 1983, the projected worst-case cooling has 
> fallen from a Siberian deep freeze spanning 11,000 degree-days Celsius (a 
> measure of the severity of winters) to numbers so unseasonably small as to 
> call the very term 'nuclear winter' into question.
>
> Correspondence to: 
>
> Russell Seitz
>

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