Please see my Google Earth 3D map featuring the entire ETC Group geoengineering map: http://climateviewer.com/earth/ I converted their Excel<http://climateviewer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/World-of-Geoengineering-ETC-Group.xls> file (provided by ETC at my request, thanks guys!) to Google Fusion table here: https://www.google.com/fusiontables/data?docid=1NecyRN7xjFg6TA1YnRjPrEiYtoUKV2sWJ259GjY#rows:id=1
After exporting their data to KML, I separated it into categories like SRM, Biochar. Click the triangles to expand, click the box to toggle display: <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dgCfcyK6Knc/UPIIMpXE0XI/AAAAAAAAAMI/196LaLZQz5k/s1600/ETC+Group+Geoengineering+map+on+ClimateViewer+3D.jpg> The Google Fusion Table export grouped projects by continent. I will correct their locations in the near future . I am adding all of the NOAA reported weather modification activities to the map: - 2012 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 12WXMOD5 partial<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2012-noaa-weather-modification-programs-12wxmod5-partial/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/us_navy/17WN_1_2012_NOAA_Summary_of_Weather_Modification_Activities_Reported_in_2012_Partial_Listing_12WXMOD5.pdf> - 2011 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 11WXMOD5 partial<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2011-noaa-weather-modification-programs-11wxmod5-partial/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/weather/450WV_2011_NOAA_Interim_Listing_of_Weather_Modification_Programs_Spreadsheet_11WXMOD5_as_of_July_7_2011.pdf> - 2010 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 10WXMOD5<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2010-noaa-weather-modification-programs-10wxmod5/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/weather/450WV_2010_NOAA_Final_Listing_of_Weather_Modification_Programs_Spreadsheet_10WXMOD5.pdf> - 2009 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 09WXMOD5<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2009-noaa-weather-modification-programs-09wxmod5/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/weather/450WV_2009_NOAA_Final_Listing_of_Weather_Modification_Programs_Spreadsheet_09WXMOD5.pdf> - 2008 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 08WXMOD5<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2008-noaa-weather-modification-programs-08wxmod5/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/weather/450WV_2008_NOAA_Final_Listing_of_Weather_Modification_Programs_Spreadsheet_08WXMOD5.pdf> - 2007 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 07WXMOD5<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2007-noaa-weather-modification-programs-07wxmod5/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/texas_449/450VW_2007_NOAA_Final_Listing_of_Weather_Modification_Programs_Spreadsheet_07WXMOD5.pdf> - 2006 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 06WXMOD5<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2006-noaa-weather-modification-programs-06wxmod5/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/weather/450VW_2006_NOAA_Final_Listing_of_Weather_Modification_Programs_Spreadsheet_06WXMOD5.pdf> - 2005 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 05WXMOD5<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2005-noaa-weather-modification-programs-05wxmod5/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/weather/450VW_2005_NOAA_Final_Listing_of_Weather_Modification_Programs_Spreadsheet_05WXMOD5.pdf> - 2004 NOAA Weather Modification Programs 04WXMOD5<http://climateviewer.com/weather-modification-projects-experiments/2004-noaa-weather-modification-programs-04wxmod5/> | Link<http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/sites/default/files/file/weather/450VW_2004_NOAA_Final_Listing_of_Weather_Modification_Programs_Spreadsheet_04WXMOD5.pdf> Currently, only part of the 2012 programs are on the map, and none of the 2004-2011 programs have been added yet. Please forward any climate engineering projects or programs my way, I'll add them! ~ Jim "ClimateViewer guy" Lee On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:49:55 PM UTC-5, Ron wrote: > > Andrew and List (adding Prof Martinez-Alier as cc) > > Thanks for this new information below.. I have reviewed the EVOLT site > and am a bit confused. I can't find the word "biochar" even once. I don't > want any researcher looking at the EVOLT site to think biochar is being > discussed by EVOLT, if it is not. > > Below, Professor Martinez-Alier, says about ETC (my main interest in > this response).: > > "*One should start with ETC’s impressive inventory and map of 300 > Climate Engineering projects and experiments, correcting mistakes or > omissions in agreement with ETC itself. The ETC group has been at the > vanguard of civil society engagement with geoengineering. Then, a smaller > but in-depth inventory of conflictive cases, is urgently needed.*" > > Thankfully, obviously, we would be making a big mistake in thinking > that EJOLT is in complete agreement with ETC. I note that one can't find > the term CDR anywhere on the ETC site. There are 7 references to biochar > but not one is to a peer-reviewed anti-biochar document. This is OK since > ETC does not claim to be the premier anti-biochar iste; ETC is accepting > the "analytical" work of others. But ETC certainly should not be thought > of any sort of expert group on geoengineering - or any of its subparts, > regardless of producing a map.. > > Re the actual ETC data and map, i note that almost all for biochar are > directly quoted from the IBI website - and so I urge Prof Martinez-Alier to > do the same. Biochar is about 30% (79) of the total number of ETC map > entries. - I judge to be larger than any other geoengineering category > (which, strangely, includes lots of algae and weather modification), but > some entries mention more than one company, project, or product. There > may more university degree programs for biochar at the IBI site than ETC > has given overall. In other words, what looks like a large set of > geoengineering entries by ETC is both over and undercounting at the same > time. (I assume ETC doesn't want to make biochar, algae, etc. look too > popular - especially in academic circles > > This is to hope Professor Martinez-Alier can give us a little more > background on how the ETC data and map will be pared back (corrected?) for > the new EVOLT geoengineering study. Under some circumstances, a number of > us on this list are probably ready to help - for instance on "fracking" > where I applaud the EVOLT emphasis. > > Ron > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Andrew Lockley" <[email protected] <javascript:>> > *To: *"geoengineering" <[email protected] <javascript:>> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:23:24 PM > *Subject: *[geo] Geoengineering conflicts: the ETC map > > Posters note : lots of links, pls read online if poss > > http://www.ejolt.org/2013/01/geoengineering-conflicts-the-etc-map/ > > Joan Martinez-Alier. > > When we wrote the EJOLT project three years ago, we selected a wide range > of environmental justice conflicts: from extraction to waste and from > nuclear to biomass. But we left aside some relatively new and upcoming > types of environmental conflicts. There is the recent boom in shale gas > fracking. And serious questions arise on geoengineering experiments. Last > autumn, the world’s largest geoengineering experiment caused a much needed > public debate. The incident revealed the urgent need for ecological > economists, political ecologists and activists to dig deeper in this > issue.Geoengineering is the intentional, large-scale technological > manipulation of the Earth’s systems, often discussed as a techno-fix for > combating climate change. But scientists and engineers do not operate in a > vacuum. Once they produced a technology, entrepreneurs and governments will > decide where and when to use it. But what if these technologies have > uncertain far reaching and long lasting impacts on a vast number of people, > if not the whole world population? That is their aim, by altering the > climate. But then how can other stakeholders than scientists, entrepreneurs > and governments be brought into such a crucial dialogue? Can they bring > the incommensurability of values or the unequal distribution of costs and > benefits to the table? Can they influence decisions that affect them on > such a vast and deep scale?It has been rightly written by the Earth > Institute at Columbia University that “Governance is perhaps the thorniest > aspect of geoengineering. Because geoengineering is a relatively cheap way > to address climate change, it is unilateral—rich countries and billionaires > could finance it on their own – yet the consequences would be global. Who > then should get to control geoengineering, and under what governance? Some > strategies would benefit certain countries and harm others, so who would > have the right to decide whether, when and how to use it? Geoengineering > would likely create winners and losers – should losers be compensated?”.How > uncertain risks, costs and benefits of environmental actions or inactions > are distributed among contemporary human groups, and with future > generations and other species, is the stuff of Political Ecology. There are > already some advances in the field of Political Ecology on Climate > Engineering. But an inventory of such studies should be carried out, within > EJOLT or in new research.One should start with ETC’s impressive inventory > and map of 300 Climate Engineering projects and experiments, correcting > mistakes or omissions in agreement with ETC itself. The ETC group has been > at the vanguard of civil society engagement with geoengineering. Then, a > smaller but in-depth inventory of conflictive cases, is urgently needed. We > need to look at the social actors involved, the valuation languagesdeployed > and we need to ask if the principle “losers should be compensated” should > be prioritized above the principle of “the incommensurability of > values”.The ETC map is both an outcome of and a subject for new research. > It claims plausibly to be a “world map of geoengineering – the large-scale > manipulation of earth or climate systems”. While there is no complete > record of the scores of weather and climate control projects in dozens of > countries, this map is the first attempt to document the expanding scope of > research and experimentation. The geoengineering experiments on the map > belong to 10 different types of climate-altering technologies. The science > around geoengineering is proceeding much faster than the critical > reflections by scientists or the watchdog operations by activists.If there > is one thing that the map already teaches us, it’s the urgent need for a > public debate infused with knowledge from different scientific disciplines > and a range of activists and concerned citizens. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/geoengineering/-/430aiaufqRMJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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