Andrew

We did some work with commercial pond foggers. Drop size was a bit big, 2.5 microns. The energy efficiency was very poor and would be worse if we reduced the drop size. With salt water a scale formed after 24 hours of running. I think this may have been something to do with residues left after cavitation.

Do you have any numbers for drop size and energy for glycol?

Stephen

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On 17/01/2013 19:34, Andrew Lockley wrote:

I've looked up commercial foggers and they seem to use glycol. This is a diol, and thus is strongly hydrophillic. It's likely to outperform paraffin, accordingly.

I'm not sure about long term toxicity of glycol in the environment, though. Less troublesome alternatives include longer chain alcohols, or fatty acids. Both of those are also more hydrophillic than the alkanes in paraffin.

If hydrophobic compounds aren't a problem, then plant oils would likely be more environmentally benign. Biodiesel isn't too far off oil in terms of pump prices, so switching to SRM biofuel foggers should be economically tolerable.

I suggested to Lynn Russell that she might start by testing the performance of theatre foggers (glycol) , rather than the paraffin fog she tested in this experiment. There are high -capacity outdoor foggers for filming, which should be suitable for testing.

On a personal note: This is exactly the kind of thing I thing geoengineers should be focussed on now. Real-world experiments, not abstract discussion of governance.

A



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