Hello All, It seems to me that it is vital to develop much better understandings between those people in geoengineering whose principal focus is on engineering/scientific aspects, and those largely concerned with legal/ethical issues.
A crucial problem is that most important words are only approximations. [That can be their beauty, also]. So, I think, we need to learn how to communicate much more fully and precisely, which is perhaps best achieved by more fraternization, which must even so leave ample time for the pursuance of our primary goals. Until recently I lived, when in England, about 50 yards from where Lewis Carroll was born. A large placard welcomes people to the Lewis Carroll birthplace and museum. But there is nothing there except an empty field, across which the Mad Hatter occasionally galumphs, at twilight. We need to learn each other’s languages. All Best, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: [email protected] or [email protected] Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Russell Seitz [[email protected]] Sent: 20 February 2013 07:44 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; Kate Ricke; Juan Moreno-Cruz; [email protected] Subject: Re: [geo] Re: Strategic incentives for climate geoengineering coalitions to exclude broad participation (new paper) Ken should recall that Humpty Dumpt 's assertion did not go unchallenged : "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master— that's all." On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:01:39 AM UTC-5, Ken Caldeira wrote: Russell, I am prone to side with Humpty Dumpty when it comes to words that do not yet have a narrow agreed-upon definition. "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less." -- Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass, 1872. We are defining "solar geoengineering" in the context of our study. Other definitions may be appropriate in other contexts. Best, Ken On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Russell Seitz <[email protected]> wrote: Ken's ERL abstract commences : Solar geoengineering is the deliberate reduction in the absorption of incoming solar radiation by the Earth's climate system with the aim of reducing impacts of anthropogenic climate change. It is worth noting the unsuble distinction between this global paradigm and aiming to reduce the uptake of solar energy to limit warming locally for purposes quite unrelated to "the aim of reducing impacts of anthropogenic climate change." such as water conservation or mitigating urban heat island effects. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
