Dear Emily,

IPCC has used standard definitions of these terms for decades. They are jargon, but the community accepts these definitions, rather than a broader dictionary definition. Mitigation means reducing emissions that cause global warming.

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On 5/11/2013 11:54 AM, Emily L-B wrote:
Hi

I would call SRM 'mitigation' (ie it reduces the Earth's temp from ghg pollution) like double glazing mitigates noise pollution from a motorway. Neither address the source of the problem, but they mitigate one of the problems. It could be called Symptom mitigation.

CDR is also mitigation - reducing the pollution directly once emitted.

Reducing emissions (what NGOs call mitigation) is mitigating the cause of the pollution.

Mitigating climate impacts, indirect impacts and transboundary impacts on fauna and flora are a legal duty for any country with legislation like NEPA in the USA and the EIA directive in the EU. Analogous legislation exists elsewhere too.

Should we be litigating any company with big projects covered by theses and countries not complying?

Any lawyers on the list?

Best wishes,
Emily.


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The definition of a pure public good in this paper is:

First, a pure public good is a good that satisfies two conditions. It is nonrival: one person’s consumption of the good does not inhibit another person’s consumption. It is also nonexcludable: once it is available to some, others cannot be prevented from consuming it.

Gardiner argues that we already know that everyone cannot benefit from solar geoengineering. This seems to be an empirical claim that is possibly true but not well-supported by quantitative analysis. It is often said that there will be winners and losers but that is a claim that has not been established. In most analyses based on commonly-used metrics of "cost", everyone benefits by some level of solar geoengineering [cf. RIcke et al, attached].

Gardiner also imagines scenarios of coercion which, while possible are merely speculation.

It may be premature to assert that we solar geoengineering is a public good, but it also seems premature to assert that it is not.



On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Andrew Lockley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Why geoengineering is not ‘global public good’, and why it's
    ethically misleading to frame it as one
    http://t.co/istDiUqRoA

    Abstract

    In early policy work, climate engineering is often described as a
    global public good. This paper argues that the paradigm example of
    geoengineering—stratospheric sulfate injection (hereafter
    ‘SSI’)—does not fit the canonical technical definition of a global
    public good, and that more relaxed versions are unhelpful. More
    importantly, it claims that, regardless of the technicalities, the
    public good framing is seriously misleading, in part because it
    arbitrarily marginalizes ethical concerns. Both points suggest
    that more clarity is needed about the aims of geoengineering
    policy—and especially governance—and that this requires special
    attention to ethics.

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