Andreas: cc list Thanks for the added information.
I can support your 3 choices as being logical. Mostly you will be disappointing the cloud whitening and biochar proponents (basing this on my perception of the numbers of active proponents or opponents of the various geoengineering options). I personally try to couple biochar to afforestation, so maybe you will be developing risks that we can "appropriate" (or reduce through the energy production and soil improvement aspects of biochar). Again, thanks for undertaking this risk study, whose results I look forward to. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "aoschlies" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected], "Geoengineering" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:12:32 AM Subject: Re: [geo] German Priority Program on CE, kick-off meeting Berlin 3 June Thanks Ron, CDR will be considered as well. To make the work load more manageable, we plan -in a first phase- to primarily investigate afforestation, ocean alkalinization and atmospheric aerosol injection. This initial selection of CE schemes was made in an attempt to cover a wide range of time and space scales, effectivities and risks, as well as social, cultural, political, legal and ethical aspects. Other schemes will be considered whenever possible, as the ultimate goal will be a comprehensive assessment. Best regards, -Andreas Am Freitag, 24. Mai 2013 16:42:49 UTC+2 schrieb Ron: > Prof. Oschlies etal > > I have visited your Geomar site and am impressed by that group's work, which > has done a lot with nitrogen, marine and biology topics. It is not clear from > what I could find there whether the CDR part of geoengineering (or climate > engineering) will also be part of this new risk analysis. This is to hope it > is - especially for the biological side such as BECCS, biochar, and your own > group's efforts with ocean biomass. > > Ron > > From: "aoschlies" > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 4:13:19 AM > Subject: Re: [geo] German Priority Program on CE, kick-off meeting Berlin 3 > June > > Many thanks, very helpful & an important point! The inherent context of the > program is that climate change is happening, model simulations are based on > various RCP scenarios, and several projects will explicitly investigate the > comparative risks/benefits of emission cuts, business-as-usual and potential > climate engineering efforts (e.g. "Comparative assessment of potential > impacts, side-effects and uncertainties of CE measures and emission-reduction > efforts" and "Contextualizing Climate Engineering and Mitigation: Complement, > Substitute or Illusion?"). > > Still, it's very useful to clearly lay out the options, remind ourselves that > we cannot do nothing and aim for a transparent risk-risk analysis. I'll make > sure that we communicate this better. > > Best, > -Andreas Oschlies > > > Am Freitag, 24. Mai 2013 00:29:06 UTC+2 schrieb Mike MacCracken: > > Again, I can only say that I hope the context for the study is that climate > > > > change is happening and leading to/projected to lead to very serious > > > > consequences, all so serious that the recommendation is that all countries > > > > completely get off of fossil fuels that supply 80+% of the world's energy. > > > > From the titles of the projects, it sounds as if the analysis will be done > > > > absent the context, which would make very little sense and be of quite > > > > limited use. What is needed is a comparative risk analysis: global warming > > > > with and without climate engineering. > > > > > > > > Mike MacCracken > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/23/13 5:28 PM, "aoschlies" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A new Priority Program on the assessment of climate engineering is funded > > > by > > > > > the German Research Foundation (DFG): „Climate Engineering: Risks, > > > > > Challenges, Opportunities?“ (SPP 1689) – coordinated by Andreas Oschlies, > > > > > GEOMAR, Kiel. Its first 3-year phase (2012-2015) is funded with about 5 > > > Mio > > > > > Euro. The kick-off meeting will take place in Berlin 3rd of June 2013 > > > > > (http://www.spp-climate-engineering.de/auftaktveranstaltung-podiumsdiskussion. > > > > > > > > html). > > > > > > > > > > The aim of the Priority Program is to help constraining the significant > > > > > uncertainties in our current understanding of the environmental, societal > > > and > > > > > political risks, challenges and possible opportunities of climate > > > engineering. > > > > > This will help to enable a responsible decision-making about CE. Due to > > > the > > > > > complexity of the topic we will conduct our assessment in a broad > > > > > interdisciplinary research team. A crucial concern of the Priority > > > Program is > > > > > to involve the general public and carry out the research in a transparent > > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > The first phase oft the program will include the following subprojects: > > > > > • „How to Meet a Global Challenge? Climate Engineering at the > > > Science-Policy > > > > > Nexus: Contested Understandings of Responsible Research and Governance “ > > > - > > > > > Barben (RWTH Aachen), Janich (TU Darmstadt) > > > > > • „Arguing about CE: Towards a Comprehensive Ethical Analysis of an > > > Ongoing > > > > > Debate“ – Betz (KIT), Ott (CAU Kiel), Visbeck (GEOMAR) > > > > > • „Comparative assessment of potential impacts, side-effects and > > > uncertainties > > > > > of CE measures and emission-reduction efforts (ComparCE)“, Ilyina (MPI > > > > > Hamburg), Oschlies (GEOMAR), Pongratz (MPI Hamburg), Schmidt (MPI > > > Hamburg) > > > > > • „Climate Engineering Impacts: Between Reliability and Liability > > > (CEIBRAL)“, > > > > > Carrier (Uni Bielefeld), Goeschl (Uni Heidelberg), Proelß (Uni Tier), > > > Schmidt > > > > > (MPI Hamburg) > > > > > • „Fingerprints analysis of extreme events caused by stratospheric sulfur > > > > > injections (FASSI)“, Cubasch (FU Berlin) > > > > > • „Contextualizing Climate Engineering and Mitigation: Complement, > > > Substitute > > > > > or Illusion? (CEMICS) “, Edenhofer (PIK), Hartmann (Uni Hamburg), Held > > > (Uni > > > > > Hamburg), Lawrence (IASS) > > > > > • „Climate Engineering on Land: Potentials and side-effects of > > > afforestation > > > > > and biomass plantations as instruments for Carbon Extraction (CE-LAND) “, > > > > > Gerten (PIK), Kracher (MPI Hamburg), Lucht (PIK), Pongratz (MPI Hamburg) > > > > > • „Learning about cloud brightening under risk and uncertainty: Whether, > > > when > > > > > and how to do field experiments (LEAC)“, Quaas (Uni Leipzig), Quaas (CAU > > > Kiel) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The DFG has asked three further subprojects to submit a revised proposal. > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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