Alan Robock recently  told a Chapman conference   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AENZJEB78E

to expect soot clouds launched above and below the tropopause to produce 
prolonged negative forcing .

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 6:23:50 PM UTC-4, andrewjlockley wrote:
>
> Poster's note :  This is a game-changing piece of research.  Finding 
> we have up to 0.8 W/m2 of previously 'hidden' warming is a spectacular 
> result.  It also suggests a possible contradiction with Kravitz' 
> result on the use of soot, albeit his paper was analysing 
> stratospheric (not tropospheric) soot injections. 
>
> NB Link is to abstract only.  Paper will hopefully be in PNAS 
> http://www.daca-13.org/wsl/daca13/program/DACA-13_Abstract_Proceedings.pdf 
>
> Radiative forcing by aircraft: effects of soot on large-scale clouds 
> Joyce Penneret al 
>
> Radiative forcing by aircraft soot in large-scale clouds has been 
> estimated to be both positive and 
> negative, while forcing by contrails and contrail cirrus (i.e. 
> spreading contrails) is positive. Here we use 
> an improved model to estimate the forcing in large-scale clouds. We 
> assume that the fraction of soot 
> particles that have been processed through contrails are good 
> heterogeneous ice nuclei (IN) and use 
> the average fraction determined from the CoCiP model. The calculated 
> total all-sky radiative climate 
> forcing ranges between -0.2 and -0.8 Wm-2 
> , with the range determined by whether sulfate on soot 
> decreases their ability to act as IN as well as the treatment used for 
> precipitation scavenging. We 
> discuss what is needed to narrow the range. 
>

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