> * Re: Fred's point: 1 $M is a lot when the debate is confined to a 
> relatively small world of researchers and advocates, but tiny once the idea 
> goes 'viral' in society at large. Think what a single insurance 
> conglomerate might spend to head off claims from sea-level rise! 
> Environmental advocates will soon have to adjust to losing 'ownership' of 
> the debate- as will researchers (and yes, there is plenty of overlap). NGO 
> advocacy contra ETC will be handled by existing environmental groups, along 
> the same lines as existing differences between, say, The Nature Conservancy 
> vs. Sea Shepherd Society. That seems hard to credit at the moment. But many 
> greens have noticed that our existing 'Plan A' of emission-reductions now 
> requires the environmentalist's equivalent of the protestant evangelical 
> Rapture: a sound of trumpets, a flash of (green) light in the sky, and lo! 
>   It's not a sustainable position, and alternatives will be sought. (Which 
> highlights the importance of Ken's appearance on KPFA, speaking to an 
> audience that both cares about the issue and is extremely resistant to the 
> news he carries).


* Re: Lou's scenario: grimly plausible. What would be the role an 
intermediate step such as high-latitude SRM in the Arctic? I'm not in a 
position to evaluate its plausibility (perhaps someone could privately 
point me to useful reading?) but if plausible enough to attempt it would 
meet a lower threshold of resistance than a global project. If 
approximately successful it would be a model, and a temptation, for a 
broader effort. 
Which speaks to Clive Hamilton's concern about a slippery slope, obviously.

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