Sorry for the confusion, should have specified that it was Greg's comments that rankled me :) wil
On Saturday, October 19, 2013, Ken Caldeira wrote: > Wil, > > While I did take a gratuitous swipe at lawyers, I think the IMO is doing > an exemplary job on this issue. > > I hope I didn't give the impression that I thought otherwise. > > Best, > > Ken > > > _______________ > Ken Caldeira > > Carnegie Institution for Science > Dept of Global Ecology > 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA > +1 650 704 7212 [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab > https://twitter.com/KenCaldeira > > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Wil Burns > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > > wrote: > >> Gratuitous pokes at lawyers by members of this group aside, a couple of >> responses to observations made below: >> >> >> 1. The Parties to the London Convention and its Protocol can't serve >> as the "Planet Police" that could address the lion's share of CO2 >> emissions >> even if they wanted to. The Convention is limited to cover the deliberate >> disposal at sea of wastes or other matter from vessels, aircraft, and >> platforms. The IMO has also begun to address carbon dioxide emissions from >> vessels, which are a steadily growing source of emissions, so it's not >> like >> it's standing idly aside; >> 2. The approach taken by the Parties appears to be quite salutary. >> It, at least for the time being, restricts OIF activities to scientific >> research, and calls for the use of its extremely well thought out risk >> assessment procedure, which includes provisions for input by potentially >> affected stakeholders in other jurisdictions. At this incipient stage of >> OIF research, this strikes me as reasonable governance approach for OIF >> research, which will permit scientific assessment while ensuring >> meaningful >> participation by interested parties. If the contempt that some members of >> this list are expressing for this approach is based on their mistrust of >> the IMO in this context, then who should be trusted to balance the >> competing interests intrinsic to this kind of activity? >> >> Wil Burns, Associate Director >> Master of Science - Energy Policy & Climate Program >> Johns Hopkins University >> 1717 Massachusetts Avenue, NW >> Room 104J >> Washington, DC 20036 >> 202.663.5976 (Office phone) >> 650.281.9126 (Mobile) >> [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');> >> >> http://advanced.jhu.edu/academic/environmental/master-of-science-in-energy-policy-and-climate/index.html >> SSRN site (selected publications): http://ssrn.com/author=240348 >> >> >> Skype ID: Wil.Burns >> >> Teaching Climate/Energy Law & Policy Blog: >> http://www.teachingclimatelaw.org >> >> On Friday, October 18, 2013 4:24:02 PM UTC-7, andrewjlockley wrote: >> >>> http://www.maritime-executive.**com/article/Marine-** >>> Geoengineering-to-be-**Regulated-Under-Amendments-to-** >>> International-Treaty-2013-10-**18/<http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/Marine-Geoengineering-to-be-Regulated-Under-Amendments-to-International-Treaty-2013-10-18/> >>> >>> Marine Geoengineering to be Regulated Under Amendments to International >>> Treaty >>> >>> 35th Consultative Meeting of Contracting Parties to the Convention on >>> the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter, >>> 1972 (London Convention) 8th meeting of Contracting Parties to the 1996 >>> Protocol thereto (London Protocol) >>> >>> BY MAREX >>> >>> Marine geoengineering, including ocean fertilization, will be regulated >>> under amendments to the 1996 Protocol to the international treaty which >>> regulates the dumping of wastes and other matter at sea. >>> >>> >>> The amendments, adopted on Friday by Parties to the 1996 Protocol to the >>> Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and >>> Other Matter, 1972, add a new article 6bis which states that “Contracting >>> Parties shall not allow the placement of matter into the sea from vessels, >>> aircraft, platforms or other man-made structures at sea for marine >>> geoengineering activities listed in Annex 4, unless the listing provides >>> that the activity or the sub-category of an activity may be authorized >>> under a permit”. >>> >>> >>> Marine geoengineering is defined as “a deliberate intervention in the >>> marine environment to manipulate natural processes, including to counteract >>> anthropogenic climate change and/or its impacts, and that has the potential >>> to result in deleterious effects, especially where those effects may be >>> widespread, long-lasting or severe”. >>> >>> >>> A new Annex 4 on “Marine geoengineering” lists “Ocean fertilization”, >>> defined as “any activity undertaken by humans with the principal intention >>> of stimulating primary productivity in the oceans. Ocean fertilization >>> does not include conventional aquaculture, or mariculture, or the creation >>> of artificial reefs.” >>> >>> >>> The Annex provides that all ocean fertilization activities other than >>> those referred to above shall not be permitted. An ocean fertilization >>> activity may only be considered for a permit if it is assessed as >>> constituting legitimate scientific research taking into account any >>> specific placement assessment framework. >>> >>> >>> A new annex V adds the Assessment Framework for matter that may be >>> considered for placement under Annex 4. The Assessment framework provides >>> that Contracting Parties should consider any advice on proposals for >>> activities listed from independent international experts or an independent >>> international advisory group of experts. >>> >>> >>> The amendments will enter into force 60 days after two thirds of the >>> Contracting Parties have deposited an instrument of acceptance of the >>> amendment with IMO. (The London Protocol currently has 43 Parties.) >>> >>> >>> Mr. Stefan Micallef, Director, Marine Environment Division, >>> International Maritime Organization (IMO) commended the adoption of the >>> amendment to regulate the placement of matter for ocean fertilization and >>> other marine geoengineering activities. “This is a true testament to the >>> fact that the London Protocol continues to be among the most advanced >>> international regulatory instruments addressing human activities in the >>> marine environment and there is no doubt that this much-awaited amendment >>> will be appreciated by other international bodies. The amendment also >>> reflects the scientific-based approach of the London Convention and its >>> 1996 Protocol,” Mr. Micallef said. >>> >>> >>> Representatives of the Contracting Parties to the Convention on the >>> Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter, 1972 >>> (London Convention) and to the 1996 Protocol thereto (London Protocol), >>> were in London for their 35th/8th meeting, held from 14 to 18 October at >>> the Headquarters of IMO, which hosts the Office for the London Convention >>> and Protocol. >>> >>> >>> The London Protocol prohibits the dumping of wastes and other matter at >>> sea except for those on a short permitted list, for which permits must be >>> sought. >>> >>> >>> The adoption of amendments relating to marine geoengineering follows >>> discussion on the matter in previous LC/LP meetings. An agreement issued in >>> 2008 stated that ocean fertilization activities, other than legitimate >>> scientific research, should not be allowed. In 2010, the Parties approved >>> an “Assessment Framework for Scientific Research Involving Ocean >>> Fertilization.” >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "geoengineering" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, >> 'cvml', 'geoengineering%[email protected]');>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> '[email protected]');> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- Dr. Wil Burns, Associate Director Master of Science - Energy Policy & Climate Program Johns Hopkins University 1717 Massachusetts Avenue, NW Room 104J Washington, DC 20036 202.663.5976 (Office phone) 650.281.9126 (Mobile) [email protected] http://advanced.jhu.edu/academic/environmental/master-of-science-in-energy-policy-and-climate/index.html SSRN site (selected publications): http://ssrn.com/author=240348 Skype ID: Wil.Burns Teaching Climate/Energy Law & Policy Blog: http://www.teachingclimatelaw.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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