Ben and ccs

   Thanks for the full response.  I do hope you can bring the CDR folk in, as 
there are few opportunities for hearing what is happening in CDR compared to 
what is happening (or not) in SRM.  My concern is that no-one I recognize with 
expertise on biochar is in the long list of likely attendees. 

   If the planners want CDR representation, I urge not waiting for session 
ideas, but make some invitations to those active in CDR.  More specifically to 
those in specific approaches - as I see very few (maybe there is no one) with 
deep insights into more than their own favorite CDR/GRR approach.  

    There is one (and only one) biofuel-biochar company with major near-term 
plans (and a lot of money) that your attendees should hear from (as the most 
likely leader in CDR in 2014).  If I were them at this point I would see no 
reason to attend without a special invitation for a plenary.   

Ron


On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Ben Kravitz <ben.kravitz.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ron -
> 
> I think I understand your question, but please let me know if I've 
> misunderstood or misrepresented your points.  Also, please keep in mind that 
> although I'm a member of the steering committee of this conference, I'm not 
> writing on behalf of anyone other than myself.  I've tried to say things that 
> I believe are in line with the many hours of discussions the members of the 
> steering committee have already had, but anyone else who may have a better or 
> different sales pitch is certainly welcome to offer one.
> 
> Our purpose in this conference is to encourage a discussion of climate 
> engineering that is as all-encompassing as possible.  We wish to be 
> inclusive, leaving the session proposals open to whoever may wish to organize 
> a coherent set of presentations.  Of course, such a broad list cannot be 
> fully represented by a short list of the people who are on the advisory 
> group, but I do hope the message of the conference on the website is very 
> clear, in that we want participation from as many different perspectives of 
> climate engineering as possible.  Interactions between the different 
> communities interested in climate engineering are crucial to the success of 
> this conference.
> 
> In my opinion, as well as according to my recollection of discussions with 
> the rest of the steering committee, CDR/GGR is an important part of the 
> discussion of climate change and climate engineering.  Our purpose is not to 
> focus the entire conference on any one particular technology or aspect of 
> climate engineering, so I do think the topics under this wide umbrella can 
> and should have a critical role to play, both in the presentation of 
> disciplinary ideas, as well as what they add to the discussion of climate 
> engineering as a whole.  By attending, each presenter or session proposer 
> will ensure that his/her views and research are being adequately represented 
> at the conference.  If you would like to participate, we would be delighted 
> to include the perspectives of your community as well.  Any conference has 
> the tradeoff of engaging in knowledge exchange versus time and expense; such 
> a decision is, of course, a personal one.  I believe that the broader the 
> participation, the more rewarding the conference will be for all of the 
> attendees.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ben
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ronal W. Larson <rongretlar...@comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Ben, Andrew and list:
>> 
>>    I see so little on CDR/GRR that I couldn't in good conscience recommend 
>> friends from the biochar community to submit anything.  I include the 
>> membership lists in the various organizing and advisory panels, where you 
>> have many (maybe all) well known names - a few on ocean technologies, but 
>> none I think from the CDR earth-bio side.
>> 
>>    Can you provide a sales pitch on why any person interested only in 
>> CDR/GGR (with examples for biochar) should want to attend?  Two weeks ago,  
>> I was overwhelmed with what was new at a biochar conference.  With four 
>> parallel sessions over 3 days, I missed over half of what went on.  I now 
>> can't see your bringing in more than one or two panels of interest to me - 
>> not enough to justify the time and expense.  Am I wrong?   Hope I am.
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Ben Kravitz <ben.kravitz.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andrew -
>>> 
>>> That's entirely up to you and the rest of the people on this list.  If you 
>>> feel the list is a good place to coordinate ideas, discuss session 
>>> proposals, and divide up responsibilities, that's great.  If you would 
>>> prefer to keep your ideas private and propose them individually, that's 
>>> also great.  We're interested in broad participation and representation of 
>>> as many viewpoints as possible, so whatever method of discussion supports 
>>> that is fine by me.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Andrew Lockley <andrew.lock...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Do you want the suggestions shared on the list?
>>>> 
>>>> I suggest the following sessions :
>>>> Non CO2 GGR 
>>>> Engineering and testing of delivery technology 
>>>> Governance/deployment modelling, games, etc. 
>>>> Deployment details - flight paths, security, monitoring , etc. 
>>>> Unconventional SRM particulates 
>>>> Cirrus stripping,  DMS and other secondary SRM technologies
>>>> 
>>>> A
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2013 5:22 PM, "Ben Kravitz" <ben.kravitz.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone -
>>>> 
>>>> It is my pleasure to announce the Climate Engineering Conference 2014:  
>>>> Critical Global Discussions (CEC14), to be held in August of next year in 
>>>> Berlin.  The official conference website - http://www.ce-conference.org - 
>>>> contains much more detailed information about the purpose of the 
>>>> conference, but here is an overview:
>>>> 
>>>> Climate Engineering has emerged rapidly as a contentious issue in 
>>>> mainstream political, scientific, and cultural discussions. We see a 
>>>> window of opportunity for bringing together the research, policy, and 
>>>> civic communities under one roof to discuss the highly complex and 
>>>> interlinked ethical, social and technical issues that come into focus when 
>>>> discussing climate engineering. We thus strive to engage in critical 
>>>> global discussions by bringing in new voices, providing a forum for 
>>>> exchange and dialogue, and examining how climate engineering intersects 
>>>> with other issues and broader trends by organizing a large conference on 
>>>> climate engineering in August 2014.
>>>> 
>>>> As a member of the steering committee, I would like to welcome anyone who 
>>>> is interested to submit session proposals.  These can include 
>>>> disciplinary, interdisciplinary, and transdisciplinary ideas.  We want to 
>>>> consider anything that you think is useful!  More information about 
>>>> session proposals can be found at 
>>>> http://www.ce-conference.org/call-session-proposals .  The deadline for 
>>>> submitting session ideas is Friday, December 6.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any questions about anything related to this conference, 
>>>> please do not hesitate to contact me at ben.krav...@pnnl.gov (please use 
>>>> CEC14 as the subject of your email).  If I'm not the right person to 
>>>> answer your question, I'll make sure you get sent to the right place.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Ben
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