Ron,

it's Nils writing from google account. Thanks for your interest and your comments!

ad 1. Andrew already mailed the paper. The PPT can also be found at
http://www.sts.aau.at/ias/Media/Dateien/Downloads-IFZ/IAS-STS/IAS-STS-Conference/STS-Conference-2014/Towards-Low-Carbon-Energy-Systems/Matzner_PPT
the paper at
http://www.sts.aau.at/ias/Media/Dateien/Downloads-IFZ/IAS-STS/IAS-STS-Conference/STS-Conference-2014/Towards-Low-Carbon-Energy-Systems/Matzner_paper

ad 2. To be honest, I am not sure what you are referring to. The first slide (page 2) is about the project I am working on.
http://www.spp-climate-engineering.de/CE-SciPol.html
Could you help me out with your reference?

ad 3. On the one hand I would agree. Not all CE technologies -- such as biochar and afforestation -- would need transnational governance in order to prevent conflicts. On the other hand a local and small scale implementation of those technologies (but that is not CE) would probably be of low risk. However, the irrigation of North African and Australian deserts carries known side effects that makes it a less attractive option as David Keller at al. (DOI 10.1038/ncomms4304) pointed out. In case of high risks several actors would probably call for responsibility.

ad 4. I have the feeling that there are no exemptions (or silver bullets) in CE technologies as comparative studies (e.g. Keller) show. There might be some land use conflicts even in local areas but small scale implementation is not as challenging as the CE scenarios that discussed in current studies. Maybe it would be a good idea to separate the non-CE-use and CE-use of those few technologies, possibly by naming them "afforestation" and "afforestation (CE)". -- However, in my opinion a-/reforestation should be done in many areas with robust forest management and political concepts.

As a political scientists (and STS scholar) I have to agree that Political Science is important besides other disciplines.

Best

Nils



Am 06.08.2014 01:46, schrieb Ronal W. Larson:
Andrew, list, adding the author, Nils (short bio at http://www.sts.aau.at/eng/Team/Researchers/Matzner-Nils)

1. I found a wide range of mostly PPts (a few papers such as that cited by Andrew) at this STS conference site:
http://www.sts.aau.at/ias/IAS-STS/Publications/Proceedings-STS-Conference-Graz-2014
This conference looked interesting, but not to many papers on CE-related topics.

2. Nils' Ppt has a specific cite that I couldn't copy, but anyone wishing to see his Ppt can find it about 1 page down at the above cite. I thought his Ppt to also be well done and ask Nils to post an address for the PPt. Also send us the last slide so I can ask a few further questions. This is an interesting slide I have not seen before. His Ppt includes the words "afforestation" and "biochar" on a different slide.

3. The rest is to bring Nils work (with his valuable Political Science perspective) more into this list's discussion on governance, as I want to ask about a few suggested modifications - such as these three of his sentences:

a.   "/Furthermore CE needs transnational modes of governments ," /

"Furthermore *_ at this time, most but not all _*CE needs transnational modes of governments ,"

/b. "For citizens side effects of CE will remain dangerous but not risky."/

/"For citizens, *_at this time most but not all _*side effects of*__*CE will remain dangerous but not risky."/

/c. "Responsibility and governance are important to be discussed immediately""./

/Responsibility and governance *_at this time,_**_ most but not all CE _*are important to be discussed immediately."/


4. Nils (and others): can you concur that some CE approaches can allow the exemptions I am trying to bring into the thought processes behind your paper and Ppt? In particular, I am thinking of afforestation, reforestation and biochar. All three are now happening widely, mostly on privately held land, and no obvious negative impact obviously important to neighboring countries, much less even counties. And plentiful positive impacts. And they have histories over milennia. I have included a time element because all three approaches obviously could take out more CO2 than would be wise, and at least biochar be justified by individual farmers/foresters for its soil improvement and renewable energy economic values. Decades from now, when it might appear we will blast past 350 (or other) ppm, slowing CDR/NET down obviously should be a reason for international discussion. But I feel it would be unwise to wait for such a political discussion now, when we are unlikely to see a peak CO2 level for many decades, even under the most aggressive CDR/NET program imaginable. Time is short.

Admission/disclosure: I think Political Science to be a most important discipline - having worked for the US. Congress and worked in local politics as well.

Thoughts?

Ron


On Aug 5, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Andrew Lockley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Matzner, Nils (2014): Responsibility and Governance of Climate Engineering

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