Geoengineering, David, etal
I had occasion a few years ago to use the word "biochar" in a short
dialog with Amy Goodman (AG), and so feel a need to say a few more words about
her conversation with Naomi Klein (NK).
Those some distance from the USA may not appreciate that the main point
of the 1.5 hour AG-NK dialog (maybe not yet aired?) was to promote a huge
environmental (climate-oriented mostly) "march" this Sunday in New York City.
They project it could reach 100,000 marchers - and maybe then a world record
for such a march. Seems to be well organized (one grand-daughter is going from
Boston - so I can report back later) AG will presumably cover it and a small
but more serious sit-in with planned civil disobedience (arrests) the next day
- Monday. NK plans to be arrested then as well - she has been in the past. I
personally applaud them both for taking our climate mess this seriously. I
attended something related to train travel to the march in Denver a few days
ago and will also be at a support event in Denver on Sunday. The whole point
of this is to put pressure on Obama, just prior to a UN meeting shortly
thereafter.
AG might be the most liberal of all US broadcasters - probably heard by
very few deniers, though. NK is well informed on climate topics; I have not
read the new NK book, but am pretty sure their will be good new details on our
present climate mess. These are not flakey people. I have no idea how they
feel about either SRM or CDR, but guess their views are shared by some on this
list.
David is correct (below) in noting NK's concerns about capitalism. The
(capitalist) US can do a lot better than we are doing in the Geo/CE arena - and
both AG and NK are doing more to make that clear than most in their spheres of
influence.
Ron
On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:51 AM, David Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
> At least Klein understands that types like Caldeira and Keith are clear when
> they explain that geoengineering is not an alternative to emission reduction.
> Her reasoning now seems a step ahead of where she was when she argued that
> the ocean she looks at from the window of her Pacific Northwest home is no
> longer the same because 100 tonnes of iron was dumped into it by Russ George.
>
>
> Her argument that only a radically transformed capitalism can solve the
> climate problem dribbles away as she asserts that what's needed is the
> application of a few trillion dollars. Congress committed to spending on
> this scale while establishing the beacon of democracy that is today's Iraq,
> and it did so while reducing taxation.
>
> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:22:21 PM UTC-7, andrewjlockley wrote:
> Poster's note : irksome interview which falls into lazy intellectual traps
> (solar power vs geoengineering, monsoon disruption risk). Maybe a lesson for
> scientists, in that "idealised experiments" clearly have the potential to
> enter folklore as policy-relevant ideas, even among leading environmental
> thinkers.
>
> http://m.democracynow.org/web_exclusives/2256
>
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