*[ND1]* *The concept of CO2 utilization goes something like this: instead 
of releasing CO2 into the atmosphere through industrial processes, we could 
instead capture CO2 from smokestacks (and/or the ambient atmosphere) and 
use this CO2 to manufacture carbon-based products — such as fuels, food, 
and construction materials.*

*So what role might CO2 utilization play in fighting climate change? The 
outlook seems mixed, as explained below.*

*The Good:Cost-effective CO2 utilization has a number of interesting 
implications. First, if CO2 capture costs could come down significantly, 
existing markets for carbon-based products could drive reductions in carbon 
emission without the need for pesky-to-implement large-scale GHG 
regulations. Even with today’s CO2 capture and utilization technology, a 
number of companies are successfully turning would-be CO2 emissions into 
valuable end products. (My highlight)*

[MH1] The CO2 capture costs, through micro/macro algal cultivation, are 
extremely low and uses simplistic technology. Noah's reductionist view of 
the 'capture' aspects has the primary drawback of not taking into account 
the full environmental and economic systems view. In that, the use of algal 
cultivation offers a substantial list of ancillary environmental and 
economic benefits. The list of benefits have been presented, in detail, 
before and I'll only mention the top three here.

1) The biomass waste stream from the algal cultivation can be used as a 
feed stock for aquacultural feed production which can, in turn, replace the 
natural (wild caught) fish protein used in the global aquacultural sector. 
This is no small issue at the overall environmental level as the current 
use of wild caught protein represents around 50% of the total global wild 
catch. The profoundly damaging effects of our current fishing industry, the 
fish feed issue being one of the most damaging, has a profound impact on 
the overall health of our oceans including, but not limited to, natural CO2 
removal, utilization and sequestration.

2) The full spectrum of non-fuel products, which algal cultivation offers, 
has a market value which eclipse that of the algal derived bio-fuel. Thus, 
it is plausible to use the economic strength of of the non-fuel profits 
to subsidize the price of the algal bio-fuel below that of FFs. Thus, FF 
prices can be driven below that of the cost of extraction. 
This scenario offers the most direct means for ending the FF era.

3) One of the most important by-products of large scale marine algal 
bio-reactor farms is fresh water. The current global need for vast amounts 
of freshwater, in of itself, represents a cash flow potential which would 
be capable of paying all algal cultivation costs.  

This systems view/approach is well within current technology and well 
within the ability of what can be one rather simplistic organization. We 
need to focus upon ending, not enabling, further FF use while working with 
the FF industry during the transition from FFs to BFs. This systems 
approach to a wide spectrum of environmental damage mitigation is the 
objective of the work being developed within the IMBECS Protocol Draft. 

*[ND2]* *Above: The Skyonic “Sky Mine” CO2 utilization facility in San 
Antonio, TX.Companies like Skyonic, CarbonCure, Solidia, and Newlight 
Technologies all show the great potential for this field to drive GHG 
emission reductions without the need to monetize carbon savings through 
regulatory programs.*

*Above: Newlight Technologies has created plastic building blocks from 
waste GHG emissions from landfills.*

*The Bad:The main problem with CO2 utilization today is economics. For one, 
CO2 from naturally occurring underground reservoirs costs about $10-$20/t, 
where as capturing would-be CO2 emissions from power plants costs 5x-10x 
that amount. Capturing CO2 from industrial facilities that produce goods 
like ethanol or ammonia is more cost competitive, but such 
industrial facilities can only supply a limited amount of CO2 compared to 
the 10B+t/year of CO2 that the power sector produces. Companies 
like Inventys are making great innovations to drive down these costs of 
capture, but technology still has a fairly long way to develop before it is 
competitive with naturally occurring CO2.*

*Another factor holding CO2 utilization back is that, even if CO2 was 
incredibly inexpensive to capture, it still might not be cost-effective to 
build products out of CO2. For example, right now, fuels remain 
considerably less expensive to extract from the ground than to synthesize 
from CO2. As a result, we will have to drive down not only the cost of CO2 
capture (and transport), but also that of manufacturing processes that 
utilize CO2 in order to make CO2 utilization cost effective.Without cost 
reductions in CO2 capture technologies, CO2 utilization is only likely to 
make a small dent in annually GHG emissions. But while these economic 
challenges are significant, large-scale R&D programs for innovative CO2 
capture technologies could change these economic fundamentals in a major 
way. The field of CO2 utilization seems similar in many way to the field of 
solar energy back in the 80s: in the 80s, we had solar technologies that 
worked, but they made poor businesses in most cases. 30 years of aggressive 
R&D later, solar is now challenging fossil fuels on an unsubsidized basis 
in many regions — CCS could follow a similar trajectory with the right 
investments in R&D and regulatory support.*

[MH2] It is! And, as briefly explained above, utilizing the abundant 
profits from the non-biofuel commodities, to subsidize the price of the 
biofuel, makes algal biofuel highly competitive.  

*[ND3] The Ugly:Where it just doesn’t seem like the numbers will ever truly 
be in the favor of CO2 utilization is when it comes to carbon dioxide 
removal (CDR). With CDR growing increasingly necessary, it would be great 
if CO2 utilization in carbon-sequestering end products (e.g. products that 
we make with CO2 and then don’t turn immediately back into CO2 emissions — 
such as fuels) could provide significant negative emissions potential. *

[MH3] Although the marine algal cultivation/biofuel/furtilizer path offers 
vast potential, due to the shear size and economy of the marine 
environment, we currently have a fledgling example of a agro crop 
carbon negative biofuel production in Cool Planet 
<http://www.coolplanet.com/>.

*[ND4] Above: The Climate Institute “Moving Below Zero” report.*

*The potential for CDR from such carbon-sequestering products, however, 
looks fairly limited today. The markets for three of the major carbon-based 
products — cement, plastics, and timber (when sustainably harvested and 
used for other purposed besides energy production) — are fairly modest in 
overall size in comparison to the prodigious ~35B tonnes of CO2 we emit 
into the atmosphere annually as “waste.”*

*The above graphic show how much CO2-equivalent is consumed each year with 
these various end products. The graphic below translates this into the 
potential for these as a CO2 sink today and in 2100 (assuming 2% annual 
growth):Links to sources: cement, plastics, timber.*

*The bottom line is that by the end of the century, we will need a lot more 
than just carbon-sequestering end products to prevent climate change — 
we’ll also need large scale decarbonization of the economy. Such 
decarbonization might rely on CO2 utilization for fuel synthesis, but it 
also means that we will need to pursue other ways to sequester CO2 
emissions, such as by storing carbon in soils through farming techniques or 
fertilizers, or injecting it underground to monetize potential carbon 
programs.So while it looks like CO2 utilization will make incremental gains 
in the fight against climate change, it doesn’t look like we will be able 
to innovate our way entirely out of our GHG emissions problem, and that 
some form of regulation will likely be needed to contain global warming.*
[MH4] That is exactly what carbon negative biofuel does for us (i.e. 
decarbonize) with the added benefit of being able to utilize the current 
distribution and centralized commercial (combustion) power plants. As to 
the need for regulatory restrictions on GHG emissions, that will be far 
more difficult than rapidly expanding agro and mariculture; the use of 
biochar/olivine; adopting wide spread use of algal derived organic 
fertilizer; and offering the FF industry a biofuel substitute for their FF 
reserves/distribution matrix.

In all, Noah's work on this carbon negative issue is not unlike many I've 
run across over the last year. The subject is not simplistic and it is easy 
to focus upon the reductionist view of the separate technologies as opposed 
to struggling with the broader and far more complex global scale 
ecological/economic/societal systems view. 

In brief, I look forward to reading Noah's views when the 'global systems 
view' light eventually flicks on.  

Best regards,

Michael   

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:33:10 PM UTC-8, andrewjlockley wrote:
>
>
> http://carbonremoval.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-co2-utilization/
>
> Everything and the Carbon Sink
>
> Noah Deich's blog on all things Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR)
>
> The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly of CO2 Utilization
>
> NOVEMBER 8, 2014
>
> The concept of CO2 utilization goes something like this: instead of 
> releasing CO2 into the atmosphere through industrial processes, we could 
> instead capture CO2 from smokestacks (and/or the ambient atmosphere) and 
> use this CO2 to manufacture carbon-based products — such as fuels, food, 
> and construction materials.
>
> So what role might CO2 utilization play in fighting climate change? The 
> outlook seems mixed, as explained below.
>
> The Good:Cost-effective CO2 utilization has a number of interesting 
> implications. First, if CO2 capture costs could come down significantly, 
> existing markets for carbon-based products could drive reductions in carbon 
> emission without the need for pesky-to-implement large-scale GHG 
> regulations. Even with today’s CO2 capture and utilization technology, a 
> number of companies are successfully turning would-be CO2 emissions into 
> valuable end products.
>
> Above: The Skyonic “Sky Mine” CO2 utilization facility in San Antonio, 
> TX.Companies like Skyonic, CarbonCure, Solidia, and Newlight 
> Technologies all show the great potential for this field to drive GHG 
> emission reductions without the need to monetize carbon savings through 
> regulatory programs.
>
> Above: Newlight Technologies has created plastic building blocks from 
> waste GHG emissions from landfills.
>
> The Bad:The main problem with CO2 utilization today is economics. For one, 
> CO2 from naturally occurring underground reservoirs costs about $10-$20/t, 
> where as capturing would-be CO2 emissions from power plants costs 5x-10x 
> that amount. Capturing CO2 from industrial facilities that produce goods 
> like ethanol or ammonia is more cost competitive, but such 
> industrial facilities can only supply a limited amount of CO2 compared to 
> the 10B+t/year of CO2 that the power sector produces. Companies 
> like Inventys are making great innovations to drive down these costs of 
> capture, but technology still has a fairly long way to develop before it is 
> competitive with naturally occurring CO2.
>
> Another factor holding CO2 utilization back is that, even if CO2 was 
> incredibly inexpensive to capture, it still might not be cost-effective to 
> build products out of CO2. For example, right now, fuels remain 
> considerably less expensive to extract from the ground than to synthesize 
> from CO2. As a result, we will have to drive down not only the cost of CO2 
> capture (and transport), but also that of manufacturing processes that 
> utilize CO2 in order to make CO2 utilization cost effective.Without cost 
> reductions in CO2 capture technologies, CO2 utilization is only likely to 
> make a small dent in annually GHG emissions. But while these economic 
> challenges are significant, large-scale R&D programs for innovative CO2 
> capture technologies could change these economic fundamentals in a major 
> way. The field of CO2 utilization seems similar in many way to the field of 
> solar energy back in the 80s: in the 80s, we had solar technologies that 
> worked, but they made poor businesses in most cases. 30 years of aggressive 
> R&D later, solar is now challenging fossil fuels on an unsubsidized basis 
> in many regions — CCS could follow a similar trajectory with the right 
> investments in R&D and regulatory support.
>
> The Ugly:Where it just doesn’t seem like the numbers will ever truly be in 
> the favor of CO2 utilization is when it comes to carbon dioxide removal 
> (CDR). With CDR growing increasingly necessary, it would be great if CO2 
> utilization in carbon-sequestering end products (e.g. products that we make 
> with CO2 and then don’t turn immediately back into CO2 emissions — such as 
> fuels) could provide significant negative emissions potential. 
>
> Above: The Climate Institute “Moving Below Zero” report.
>
> The potential for CDR from such carbon-sequestering products, however, 
> looks fairly limited today. The markets for three of the major carbon-based 
> products — cement, plastics, and timber (when sustainably harvested and 
> used for other purposed besides energy production) — are fairly modest in 
> overall size in comparison to the prodigious ~35B tonnes of CO2 we emit 
> into the atmosphere annually as “waste.”
>
> The above graphic show how much CO2-equivalent is consumed each year with 
> these various end products. The graphic below translates this into the 
> potential for these as a CO2 sink today and in 2100 (assuming 2% annual 
> growth):Links to sources: cement, plastics, timber.
>
> The bottom line is that by the end of the century, we will need a lot more 
> than just carbon-sequestering end products to prevent climate change — 
> we’ll also need large scale decarbonization of the economy. Such 
> decarbonization might rely on CO2 utilization for fuel synthesis, but it 
> also means that we will need to pursue other ways to sequester CO2 
> emissions, such as by storing carbon in soils through farming techniques or 
> fertilizers, or injecting it underground to monetize potential carbon 
> programs.So while it looks like CO2 utilization will make incremental gains 
> in the fight against climate change, it doesn’t look like we will be able 
> to innovate our way entirely out of our GHG emissions problem, and that 
> some form of regulation will likely be needed to contain global warming.
>

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