It is obvious from discussions on this group that most advocates of geoengineering research are strong advocates of deep and rapid cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.
The suggestion from Jim Thomas and his cronies that advocates of this research are shills for the fossil fuel industry is pure and unadulterated hogwash. Most advocates of this research are deeply concerned that we are not reducing fossil fuel emissions rapidly enough, fear the potential suffering and hardship that these emissions may engender, and feel desperate enough to think that it is time to think seriously about what we would do if our greenhouse gas emissions cause truly catastrophic outcomes. Recognizing the need for geoengineering research means recognizing that our fossil fuel industry may cause a climate catastrophe. This is not the position of the fossil fuel industry. Some people prefer knowledge. Others prefer to remain in ignorance. Jim Thomas and his ilk are apparently advocates for ignorance. I am not convinced that maintaining a state of ignorance is really the best way to reduce environmental risk. Jim Thomas owes an apology to the environmental scientists like myself who are working hard to increase understanding of ways that might be able to reduce environmental risk should our greenhouse gas emissions cause a real climate catastrophe. _______________ Ken Caldeira Carnegie Institution for Science Dept of Global Ecology 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA +1 650 704 7212 [email protected] http://kencaldeira.com https://twitter.com/KenCaldeira My assistant is Dawn Ross <[email protected]>, with access to incoming emails. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:10 PM, jim thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > > February 9, 2015 - ETC Group > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/a32da62333/utm_content=jim%40etcgroup.org&utm_source=VerticalResponse&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=ETC%20Group&utm_campaign=Web%20site%20launch%3A%20GeoengineeringMonitor%2Eorg> > > > Read this on the ETC web site here > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/688582e80f/utm_content=jim%40etcgroup.org&utm_source=VerticalResponse&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=on%20the%20ETC%20web%20site%20here&utm_campaign=Web%20site%20launch%3A%20GeoengineeringMonitor%2Eorg>, > or spread the word by retweeting > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/f842e42d01>. > > > Introducing GeoengineeringMonitor.org > > Critical information and resistance to geoengineering > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > OTTAWA, Feb 9 2015 -- As the climate crisis deepens and political and > economic leaders remain in a state of paralysis, geoengineering is > increasingly being advanced as a potentially "necessary" action; if recent > attempts at opinionmaking are to be believed, it has gone from unthinkable > to fundable. And yet, public opinion and much of the scientific community > considers geoengineering technologies to be risky and more likely to > aggravate than resolve the climate crisis. > > > As the National Academy of Sciences releases two new reports that support > funding geoengineering pilot projects, an alliance of civil society groups > is launching a new website, "Geoengineering Monitor > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/98f57290e2>," to > provide a space for critical perspectives, building resistance and tracking > developments. > > > GeoengineeringMonitor.org > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/09cc369d54> provides > an overview of criticisms of climate engineering proposals, an historical > record of opposition to geoengineering projects, as well as timely updates > and realistic evaluations of the latest schemes. > > > "Geoengineering proponents are taking to the airwaves and the op/ed pages > to sell their proposals," said Pat Mooney. "What is most troubling is that > these engineers believe they know enough to take control of global > atmospheric dynamics. Earth systems are complex and poorly understood; > there is no way they can simply make changes and achieve a single, > predictable outcome." > > > "Proponents of geoengineering appear eager to play 'god' while > experimenting with our only planet." > > > ETC Group and Biofuelwatch, two organizations that have been critical of > geoengineering schemes, are jointly launching the new website to provide a > resource for people interested in understanding better the many risks > associated with geoengineering proposals. GeoengineeringMonitor.org > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/be1b19487f> documents > ecological risks, including droughts in vulnerable regions like sub-Saharan > Africa and ecological dead zones in the oceans. The site currently displays > summaries of the latest research on the projected effects of efforts to > block sunlight on Africa, Asia and Latin America, as well as analysis of > the impacts of large scale "biosequestration" proposals on land, water and > biodiversity. The site also offers perspectives into the likely strategies > of the "super major" oil conglomerates in response to the climate emergency. > > > But it also critiques the thinking behind the schemes. > > > "People are coming to understand that the climate crisis is escalating > while leaders do little or nothing," said Rachel Smolker of BiofuelWatch. > "The geoengineering clique is taking advantage of this situation to promote > their planetary technological manipulations. Some of the most avid > promoters of geoengineering have links to the fossil fuel industries and to > institutions that have backed climate denial." > > > "The technofix mentality says that we can cure the symptom with risky > technologies instead of addressing the cause," Smolker added. "That is a > very tempting for politicians who are averse to taking bold steps and many > of whom are funded by fossil fuel industries. " > > > The site provides a partial archive of media coverage of several attempts > at conducting real-world geoengineering experiments, most of which were > halted by civil society opposition. > > > "Civil society has put a stop to many attempts to sneak in geoengineering > projects," said Z. "It's important to document those victories, because > we're going to need more of them as we work towards real, just climate > solutions." > > > GeoengineeringMonitor can be viewed at > http://www.geoengineeringmonitor.org > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/ea638405ed>. The > site features updates viaTwitter > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/873f872972> > (@geoengmon) > and Facebook > <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ETCGroup/8299c5f988/e6bca124e9/29ebf47afd> as > well. > > > -30- > > Jim Thomas > ETC Group (Montreal) > [email protected] > +1 514 2739994 > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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