Hi Ron, Thanks for the reference to* “Climate engineering reconsidered"*. Nature Climate Change, 4 (7) pp. 527-529. ISSN 1758-678X DOI: 10.1038/nclimate2278 [1].
There is a fundamental flaw in their argument against SRM in any circumstance. The section on averting disasters fails to consider that geoengineering might be the only way to prevent certain disasters which would be absolutely catastrophic for humanity. Do they think that disasters on such a scale are impossible? For example, in the case of Amazon forest die-back from excessive drought, geoengineering might be the only way to prevent it. And die-back and burn would put so much CO2 into the atmosphere, that dangerous global warming could not be avoided. In the case of the Arctic, they fail to mention the obvious threat of sea ice seasonal disappearance, which could happen in just a few decades according to the latest climate models or just a few years according to the observed trend in September volume decline. Why do they not mention this? Is it because they think it can't happen? Or is it because their argument against geoengineering falls down, so they don't want to talk about it? Geoengineering will almost certainly required to cool the Arctic enough to prevent the Arctic Ocean getting locked into a low-ice state, risking catastrophic consequences for sea level rise, climate change and methane feedback. Do they not realise this? Or do they think a disaster to threaten all humanity simply can't happen? I would love to believe that nothing so catastrophic could threaten us all so soon, but surely governments should be warned of the real possibility and prepare for intervention to stave off disaster. Cheers, John [1] No fee version at: http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/60824/1/__lse.ac.uk_storage_LIBRARY_Secondary_libfile_shared_repository_Content_Tavoni,%20A_Climate%20engineering_Tavoni_Climate%20engineering_2015.pdf On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Ronal W. Larson <rongretlar...@comcast.net> wrote: > Michael cc list: > > 1. Thanks for supplying the draft bibliography. Certainly can be a > help. Perhaps in a later version you can separate into SRM, CDR, and > “both” categories. Perhaps also can show which are available on a no-fee > basis. > > 2. I searched (mostly unsuccessfully) for those that might have a CDR > slant. I enjoyed the short “freshwater” paper you listed by Spears and > Maberly, which has both SRM and CDR aspects. It is on a no-fee basis at: > > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bryan_Spears/publication/268153730_Lessons_learned_from_geoengineering_freshwater_systems/links/54632bfe0cf2837efdb02b6b.pdf > > 3. This last refers several times to a (SRM-only) paper, not on your > list, that should be of interest to many: > > Barrett, Scott, Lenton, Timothy M., Millner, Antony, Tavoni, Alessandro, > Carpenter, Stephen, Anderies, John M., Chapin, F. Stuart, Crépin, > Anne-Sophie, Daily, Gretchen, Ehrlich, Paul, Folke, Carl, Galaz, Victor, > Hughes, Terry, Kautsky, Nils, Lambin, Eric F., Naylor, Rosamond, Nyborg, > Karine, Polasky, Stephen, Scheffer, Marten, Wilen, James, Xepapadeas, > Anastasios and de Zeeuw, Aart (2014) > > *“ Climate engineering reconsidered"*. Nature Climate Change, 4 (7). pp. > 527-529. ISSN 1758-678X DOI: 10.1038/nclimate2278 > > No fee version at: > http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/60824/1/__lse.ac.uk_storage_LIBRARY_Secondary_libfile_shared_repository_Content_Tavoni,%20A_Climate%20engineering_Tavoni_Climate%20engineering_2015.pdf > > Ron > > > On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Michael Thompson <mich...@dcgeoconsortium.org> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > We've asked our research assistants to pull together a draft bibliography > for climate engineering governance, taken from English language published > volumes and peer reviewed literature. > > Hoping for feedback from the community, regarding missing works or > otherwise. Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Please see here <http://dcgeoconsortium.org/ce-governance-bibliography/> > http://dcgeoconsortium.org/ce-governance-bibliography/ > > Happy reading. > > Michael > -- > > > Michael Thompson > Managing Director > Forum for Climate Engineering Assessment > A Scholarly Initiative of the School of International Service, American > University > www.dcgeoconsortium.org > p- 202 556 3776 > > <FCEA_LOGO_HORIZONTAL_RGB.jpg> <http://dcgeoconsortium.org/> > <https://www.facebook.com/dcgeoconsortium> > <https://twitter.com/ceassessment> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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