http://envisionation.co.uk/index.php/blogs/nick-breeze-blogs/169-hunt-anderson-cop21

Climate Justice? “Let them eat cake!” Discussion: Professor Kevin Anderson
& Dr. Hugh Hunt

Nick Breeze
20 December 2015

In this spontaneous conversation between two of Britain’s most vocal
scientists on climate change and engineering, we see a frank analysis of
the details that bely inconvenient truths for each one us.

Our current carbon pollution rate is taking us towards a planet that is on
average 4ºC warmer than today with regional variations far exceeding this
and changes to the natural world that will be so profound that it is fair
to say, this will not be the same planet.

Cognitive dissonance

As Dr. Hunt points out, reducing the billions of tonnes of carbon pollution
we emit each year requires a huge behavioural change for all of us.
Professor Anderson points to the fact that the majority of emissions come
from 10% of the world’s richest people.

In this respect, perhaps tackling the severe effects of climate change
means just asking this wealthy 10% to change their lifestyles? That would
be easier if it was the 10% themselves who were the most exposed to impact
risk. Unfortunately, the people who are suffering and dying the most are
also often those in the poorest regions of the world, who have not emitted
anywhere near as much carbon as the world’s richest.

Education has a role in engaging the public but much of the framing of this
issue usually comes across as a curbing of middle class aspirations. That
is a harder sell to anyone. We may agree that causing suffering to others
is a terrible thing but when asked if we are prepared to take the action
required to stop it, we struggle to feel the urgency necessary to make a
difference.

Thus we know what we are doing and make noises about action and “climate
justice”, yet we ignore the fact that, as Dr. Hunt says, “everything we do
is written in CO2 ink”. It is this cognitive dissonance that make this
issue so complex. We tend to think of it as a science problem but much of
the science is settled, the real problems now have moved to the social and
political sphere.

Carbon sequestering technologies

Anderson: “Carbon sequestration works at very small levels. Whether you
could scale it up to 35 billion tonnes… this is where you suck the CO2
either out of the atmosphere or out of chimneys from power stations and
then you store this as liquid CO2 somewhere for the next thousand plus
years. To store this quantity of CO2, this is a huge challenge. Yet, this
is normalised in almost all of the models that are advising policymakers…
every single scenario that has been discussed, at this event in Paris that
I have heard, assumes, without actually mentioning it up front, that this
technology works. It is highly speculative!”

Carbon Budget

One of the big omissions from the Paris Accord is the mention of the carbon
budget. Anderson discusses why this is so important. The remaining 900
billion tonnes that analysts say we can burn before exceeding the carbon
budget for safe climate change (a figure that should not be taken as
absolute fact, but rather, based on ‘scenarios’ that are themselves
dependent on carbon negative technologies, that currently do not exist, and
emissions reductions that should have started years ago) is meant to be
divided up in a fair and equitable way, placing emphasis on the world’s
poor to give them a better quality of life and resilience to climate
changes in their region.

By taking out the mention of the carbon budget in the early stages of the
Paris negotiations, the implication is that the conversation over who burns
what can be sidestepped and the wealthy nations do not have to tackle this
central issue straight on.

It is worth adding to this that achieving 1.5ºC as a safe limit of global
mean temperature rise to ensure the safety of exposed regions (such as low
lying lands and small island states), is only possible with aggressive and
immediate decarbonisation over the next ten years. Thus, the number is only
being treated as “aspirational” and not realistic.

Anderson: “The problem with carbon, it is in the dyes in my shirt. It is in
the ship that brought my shirt here, it’s how we got to this event, it
keeps the lights on, it’s keeping your computer running. Carbon is
completely pervasive.”

The +2ºC world

Anderson: “It is highly unlikely that we will hold to 2º Centigrade. It is
a choice. We know how to do this today but it does require this social and
political change in the short-term.”

The reality of the issue is that we are losing the window of opportunity to
stay below 2ºC. As we start looking to a 2-4ºC world, we are looking at
planet that is likely to be wrought with famine, conflict, overwhelming
migration and huge degradation of natural systems.

There are worrying feedbacks to warming the planet that should concern us
all. One example is the collapse of global forests. A scientific study has
shown that at 2.5ºC increase in temperature many of the worlds forests will
collapse. These are huge carbon sinks and sources of oxygen. The world
without trees is certain to be challenging.

Of course, we can add in all kinds of other impacts such as the collapse of
ice sheets, melting permafrost, dying off of oceans, and they are all
severely bad for life on Earth.

Social values and climate justice?

Hunt: “So, why is the mood here quite optimistic? It seems to me we may
well have passed some tipping points. Time will tell in the next few
decades.”

Anderson: “Part of the optimism comes from rich people in the northern
hemisphere who think we can buy our way out of it…. you hear people use
this kind of language… what this means is, ‘we’ll muddle through because we
are rich enough to buy our way out of it, and the poor will die!’ If you
look at the language we use and peel away the layers, and look beneath it,
what we are saying is fairly savage!”

Hunt: “This is the modern version of ‘Let them eat cake’. We seem to be
accepting that our lifestyles will not change very much. Somehow we have to
put in a political framework, a legal framework, a governance framework to
solve the problem, without affecting our lifestyles.”

“Geoengineering” the climate

Anderson: “Personally, my view on this is that we should do the research on
these techniques and we should do the research on the techniques for
sucking the CO2 out of the air, but all of our policy framing should assume
they don’t work. So it is an insurance policy that has a very high
probability of never paying out. So we should do the research and assume
that they will never work. The problem is that we are not doing very much
research and we are assuming that they work.”

Hunt: “The research that I have been involved in on the SPICE project
(Stratospheric Particle Injection for Climate Engineering), a small test
that we want to do, had to be stopped because of the concerns about the
perception of what we were doing. It was not because of the concerns about
what we were actually doing, but about the perception of what we were
doing.”

“I think that this is a bit worry that the perception of what we are doing
in pumping 35 billion tonnes of CO2 in the atmosphere seems not to be of
any great concern, but the perception of research we might do into climate
engineering is of great concern. I’m not saying that it is not a great
concern but let’s get a balance.”

Anderson: “I take the view that we can actually make a big difference by
making social changes now. We can still just make the 2ºC but it needs
rapid and deep reductions by this relatively small set of big emitters.
Because we are saying we’re not prepared to do that, therefor we have to
think about the other sets of issues. I think we do need to reinvigorate
the debate about social change in the short to medium term, whilst we put
the low carbon energy supply in place.”

“All these other techniques are contentious and they may not work. If we
could reduce our energy consumption today, that is not everybody on the
planet but just a relatively small number of us. Then that definitely would
have an impact on our carbon emissions very quickly.”

Optimism?

Hunt: “We are coming into a period of great stress. I think that our young
kids at school now are going to be our new generation of inspirational
people. I am not just relying on them rather hopefully. I just believe that
the world we are going into will be very stressful and that people will
rise to the challenge and great things will happen.”

Anderson: “I think we have all the tools we need to resolve this problem,
pretty much at our fingertips, but we are not prepared to use them now. And
the two I have mentioned are: Very significant social change for the few in
the short to medium term, and engineers doing what engineers have been very
good at doing for decades, if not centuries, and that is changing our
infrastructure towards a very low carbon future going forward.”

“If you put those two together I think that 2ºC is still a viable goal for
our society.”

Welcome to the Anthropocene - era of human driven climate

Schellnhuber: “The emissions so far already suffice to suppress the next
ice ages.”

Earlier this week I was in Potsdam to interview Professor John
Schellnhuber, the founding Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate
Impact Research (PIK). The interview coincided with the release of a new
iconic paper in the scientific journal, Nature, titled, ‘Critical
insolation - CO2 relation for diagnosing past and future glacial
inception’ that finalises the assertion that we are in a new geological
epoch called the “Athropocene”.

Man made climate

Schellnhuber says with restrained poignancy: “Humankind is a stronger force
on Earth now than, you know, the orbital forces and all things like that.
It is fascinating but also very scary!”

By looking at ice core data covering the last 800,000 years, the research
shows how scientists can determine the function that causes periods of
“glacial inceptions”, or more commonly known as ice ages.

Although there has been much speculation around the longer lasting role of
increased levels of greenhouse gases, this paper confirms that “the timing
of glacial inceptions can be explained  by the CO2 concentration and the
-CO2 relation.” This is essentially warming or cooling of the planet based
on the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.

The importance of the evidence that humans are now driving, climate led
Schellnhuber to state: “I think it is a fascinating paper; one of the best
I was involved with.”

Did we call off an ice-age 200 years ago?

The paper says: “Ice core data shows that at every previous glaciation
period, CO2 in the atmosphere was lower, usually around 240 parts per
million (ppm).”

Before the industrial revolution atmospheric carbon was at around 280ppm,
thus 40ppm above the level needed to trigger an ice age. There is a lot of
speculation and uncertainty as to whether changes in land use by humans
prior to the industrial revolution caused the increase from 240ppm to
280ppm. If this were to be the case then it would show that human action
literally called off an ice age.

Predicting future ice ages

Schellnhuber makes it very clear: “Actually the next two natural ice ages
would happen in eighty and ninety thousand years, but they are called off…
by human interference. The emissions so far already suffice to suppress the
next ice ages.”

It is precisely this human interference from burning fossil fuels that
caused the initial speculation that we might be altering the Earth’s
climate, leading Nobel Prize winning scientist, Paul Crutzen, to label it
the “anthropocene”

“Scary”?

Worsening impacts of climate change are taking effect around the world.
Having evidence that the next ice ages will be delayed adds a layer of
concern regarding the geophysical changes that occurring on Earth due to
human activity.

We maybe the drivers of global climate but we appear to be asleep at the
wheel, as the evidence for anthropogenic global warming has been around for
decade. Only now are politicians, the public and big business starting to
take the risks posed more seriously.

On the positive side we can sigh with relief that we have called off the
next two ice ages that would represent a very difficult challenge for human
civilisation. However, temper that relief with the growing likelihood that
if we don’t wake up to climate change, it is unlikely that humanity will
exist on Earth in anything like fifty thousand years!

Tel: 02071934844 | Email: [email protected] | Site by Artgal
Media |

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"geoengineering" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to