Hi,

I wouldn't be so sure that this is a forcing difference. There are VERY 
large differences in the model response to high CO2 scenarios, with much 
smaller differences between SRM and no-SRM scenarios. These arise because 
different factors act to limit vegetation productivity in the different 
models. In Susanne Glienke's paper the only models which included a 
nitrogen cycle in GeoMIP, a version of CLM, found the opposite trend to 
that reported in Xia et al. They found greater tropical productivity in the 
non-SRM scenario than the SRM scenario and only a small CO2 fertilization 
effect, likely arising from the fact that nitrogen is the limiting factor 
in these regions and it is recycled more rapidly in warmer soils boosting 
NPP.

I think it's still early days in the study of the vegetation response to 
SRM.

cheers,

Pete

On Thursday, 11 February 2016 08:44:01 UTC-5, Alan Robock wrote:
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> Dear Bala,
>
> Actually in our paper we say:
>
> Kalidindi et al. (2015) showed that with a 20 Tg sulfate aerosol
> (SO4) stratospheric loading to balance the radiative forcing
> of 2 xCO2, broadband diffuse radiation would increase
> by 11.2 Wm-2 compared with the reference run. However
> they used a very unrealistic stratospheric aerosol distribution,
> with a very small effective radius of 0.17 μm and uniform
> geographical distribution.
>
> So we did different experiments, and we used a much more "realistic" 
> aerosol size and space distribution.  I think the differences in the 
> results are because of the forcing and not the models.
>
> Alan 
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> On 2/10/2016 10:32 PM, Govindasamy Bala wrote:
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> Interesting result. The conclusions seem to depend on model 
> configurations.  
>
> Our paper published last year in Climate Dynamics (attached) did not find 
> any such benefit from the enhanced diffused radiation because of the offset 
> from a reduction in direct light. In fact we found a net reduction in GPP 
> of about 1 PgC
>
> Looks like Multi-model intercomparison would be needed to resolve this 
> issue.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Alan Robock <[email protected] 
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>> Our most recent paper has just been published:
>>
>> Xia, L., Robock, A., Tilmes, S., and Neely III, R. R.: Stratospheric 
>> sulfate geoengineering could enhance the terrestrial photosynthesis rate, 
>> Atmos. Chem. Phys., 16, 1479-1489, doi:10.5194/acp-16-1479-2016, 2016.
>>
>> http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/16/1479/2016/
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