The cosmos seems to have a hands on policy with regard to the "pristine" ocean.
The annual micrometeorite dust flux exceeds 20,000 tonnes, and macroscopic meteorites average roughly 12 % metallic irom containing 4-12% nickel , some 73% of which lands in Earth's oceans. As this flux accordingly exceeds that from marine corrosion of man-made iron ships and structures by several orders of magnitude , and the biogeochemical cycle of iron dwarfs both of these sources, It is hard to understand why opponents of the proposed iron experiments presume to advertise them as existential threats. On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 12:11:23 AM UTC-4, Greg Rau wrote: > > For some perspective on why we haven't converted ocean deserts to C sinks, > see these early arguments from some very influential oceanographic > heavyweights > http://www.bio.miami.edu/prince/Chisholm.pdf > > Ken and I offered an alternative to this "hands off the ocean" view > http://science.sciencemag.org/content/295/5553/275.4.full but to little > effect. > > Now that we've learned that land biology manipulations aren't going to > singelhandley save our bacon (or the ocean): > > http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/2016EF000469/asset/eft2203.pdf?v=1&t=j3pbjnzv&s=8ecb4ce810928afd86afbe71a43e4c644cb0149a > is it time yet to revisit what the other 70% of the Earth's surface and > 99% of it's livable volume might have to offer? Or shall the false concept > of preserving a "still pristine" ocean remain the enemy of research into > potentially planet-saving actions? > > Greg > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Brian Cady <[email protected] <javascript:>> > *To:* geoengineering <[email protected] <javascript:>> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:17 AM > *Subject:* [geo] Re: Iron-dumping ocean experiment sparks controversy > > Perhaps it will help to emphasize the scale of the OIF opportunity. It > takes energy to fix air's carbon, and sunlight is a most sustainable energy > source. Much earth-incident sunlight is already used by life on earth, but > desert areas as well as High Nutrient - Low Chlorophyll ocean (HNLC) areas > both have low productivity. Deserts cover 10% of earth’s dry land, while > HNLC waters stretch across 1/5th of the oceans, Dry land covers nearly 30% > of earth, while water covers about 70%. 10% of 30% is 3%; 20% of 70% is > 14%, 4.8-fold more, hence, opportunities for engaging sunlight energy in > carbon reduction in HNLC waters may exceed those in deserts. Providing > trace iron to HNLC areas may be the least expensive carbon fix, and, as > Russell Weitz points out, we're already doing it unintentionally through > ship rusting, as well as through combustion of iron-containing fuel in > ships, etc. that cross HNLC areas. > > On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 4:51:17 PM UTC-4, Russell Seitz / Bright Water > wrote: > > Let me repeat the essence of what I wrote in response to Jeff in Nature-- > > Marine corrosion results in every unprotected square meter of a steel > ship's immersed surface sheding an average of 8 g/m2 or more of iron a > year. The average laden vessel- a 30,000 tonne Handymax, has an immersed > surface of ~8,000 m2, and large containerships and tankers run up to 2 > hectares each. so each ship may be expected to shed roughly six to > twentty kg a year. As the world fleetin service exceeds 10,000 such ships, > iron fertilization in the sea lanes is already in the range of 60 to 200 > tonnes of iron.. not counting smaller but more numerous craft, many > correctly classified as 'rustbuckets, ' sunken vessells and iron wharfage > and coastal protection. > > If as little as a few % of the immersed steel has been imperfectly > maintained ,the 10 tonne release criterion has been met or exceeded > -annually, for roughly the last 100 years- > > > > On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 3:11:24 AM UTC-4, Andrew Lockley wrote: > > > https://www.nature.com/news/ iron-dumping-ocean-experiment- > sparks-controversy-1.22031 > <https://www.nature.com/news/iron-dumping-ocean-experiment-sparks-controversy-1.22031> > > Iron-dumping ocean experiment sparks controversy > Canadian foundation says its field research could boost fisheries in > Chile, but researchers doubt its motives. > > - Jeff Tollefson > > <https://www.nature.com/news/iron-dumping-ocean-experiment-sparks-controversy-1.22031#auth-1> > > 23 May 2017 > Article tools > > - PDF > > <http://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/1.22031!/menu/main/topColumns/topLeftColumn/pdf/545393a.pdf> > - Rights & Permissions > > <https://s100.copyright.com/AppDispatchServlet?author=Jeff+Tollefson&title=Iron-dumping+ocean+experiment+sparks+controversy&publisherName=NPG&contentID=10.1038%2F545393a&publicationDate=05%2F23%2F2017&publication=Nature+News> > > Blickwinkel/Alamy > Phytoplankton need iron to make energy by photosynthesis. > Marine scientists are raising the alarm about a proposal to drop tonnes of > iron into the Pacific Ocean to stimulate the growth of phytoplankton, the > base of the food web. The non-profit group behind the plan says that it > wants to revive Chilean fisheries. It also has ties to a controversial 2012 > project in Canada that was accused of violating an international moratorium > on commercial ocean fertilization. > The Oceaneos Marine Research Foundation of Vancouver, Canada, says that it > is seeking permits from the Chilean government to release up to 10 tonnes > of iron particles 130 kilometres off the coast of Coquimbo as early as > 2018. But Chilean scientists are worried because the organization grew out > of a for-profit company, Oceaneos Environmental Solutions of Vancouver, > that has sought to patent iron-fertilization technologies. Some researchers > suspect that the foundation is ultimately seeking to profit from an > unproven and potentially harmful activity. > “They claim that by producing more phytoplankton, they could help the > recovery of the fisheries,” says Osvaldo Ulloa, director of the Millennium > Institute of Oceanography in Concepción, Chile. “We don’t see any evidence > to support that claim.” > Related stories > > - Emissions reduction: Scrutinize CO2 removal methods > <https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/530153a> > - Climate geoengineering schemes come under fire > <https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/nature.2015.16887> > - Climate tinkerers thrash out a plan > <https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/516020a> > > More related stories > <https://www.nature.com/news/iron-dumping-ocean-experiment-sparks-controversy-1.22031#related-links> > Tensions flared in April, when researchers at the institute went public > with their concerns in response to Chilean media reports on the project. > The government has since requested input from the Chilean Academy of > Science, and the institute is organizing a forum on the project and related > research on 25 May, at a marine-sciences meeting in Valparaíso, Chile. The > Oceaneos foundation, which declined an invitation, has accused the > scientists of improperly classifying its work as geoengineering, rather > than ocean restoration. Oceaneos president Michael Riedijk says that his > team wants to work with Chilean scientists and will make all the data from > its experiment public. The foundation plans to hold its own forum later, > but if scientists aren’t willing to engage, he says, “we’ll just move on > without them”. > Researchers worldwide have conducted 13 major iron-fertilization > experiments in the open ocean since 1990. All have sought to test whether > stimulating > phytoplankton growth > <http://www.nature.com/news/dumping-iron-at-sea-does-sink-carbon-1.11028> can > increase the amount of carbon dioxide that the organisms pull out of the > atmosphere and deposit in the deep ocean when they die. Determining how > much carbon is sequestered during such experiments has proved difficult, > however, and scientists have raised concerns about potential adverse > effects, such as toxic algal blooms. In 2008, the United Nations Convention > on Biological Diversity put in place a moratorium on all > ocean-fertilization projects > <https://www.nature.com/news/2008/080603/full/453704b.html> apart from > small ones in coastal waters. Five years later, the London Convention on > ocean pollution adopted rules for evaluating such studies. > Because Oceaneos’s planned experiment would take place in Chilean waters, > it is allowed under those rules. Riedijk says that the foundation will > voluntarily follow international protocols for such studies; it is unclear > whether that will allay fears that the group is promoting an unproven > technology, rather than conducting basic research. > > “If they want to partner with academics, then surely transparency is their > best foot forward.” > > Philip Boyd, a marine ecologist at the University of Tasmania in Hobart, > Australia, wants to see the foundation publish research based on lab > experiments before heading out into the field. “If they are a > not-for-profit scientific venture that wants to partner with academics, > then surely transparency is their best foot forward,” he says. > Oceaneos’s links to a 2012 iron-fertilization project off the coast of > British Columbia, Canada, have made some researchers wary. In that project, > US entrepreneur Russ George convinced a Haida Nation village to pursue iron > fertilization to boost salmon populations, with the potential to sell > carbon credits based on the amount of CO2 that would be sequestered in > the ocean. News of the plan broke after project organizers had dumped > around 100 tonnes of iron sulfate into the open ocean. In the years since, > scientists have seen no evidence that the experiment worked. > Riedijk says he was intrigued when he read about the Haida experiment in > 2013, and contacted one of its organizers, Jason McNamee. McNamee later > served as chief operating officer of Oceaneos Environmental Solutions — > which Riedijk co-founded — before leaving the company last year. > Despite the Haida project’s problems, Riedijk says that ocean > fertilization merits further research: “If this actually does work, it does > have global implications.” Oceaneos Environ-mental Solutions has developed > an iron compound that can be consumed efficiently by phytoplankton, he > adds, but he declined to release details. Riedijk also says that the > foundation is working on a method to trace the movement of iron up the food > chain and into fish populations. > In the meantime, scientists say that it will be difficult to get solid > data from the Oceaneos foundation’s planned experiment. The geology off the > Chilean coast, and the patterns of currents there, create a mosaic of low- > and high-iron waters. Anchovies, horse mackerel and other fish move freely > between these areas. > And adding iron could shift the location and timing of phytoplankton > blooms to favour fast-growing species, says Adrian Marchetti, a biological > oceanographer at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. One of > those, the diatom *Pseudo-nitzschia*, produces domoic acid, a neurotoxin > that can kill mammals and birds. Oceaneos’s experiment will probably > increase plankton growth in low-iron waters, Marchetti says, “but it’s not > to say that that is actually good for the higher levels of the food chain”. > Nature 545, 393–394 (25 May 2017) doi :10.1038/545393a > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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