Some folks I know also have thought about the effect on albedo of reintroducing 
large herbivores to the Arctic.

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On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:25 AM, Andrew Lockley 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Good spot.

The "solution" is likely to be counter-productive, if it works as you describe. 
Except in local anomalies, summer radiation is the main heat input. Late lying 
snow increases albedo, thus reducing seasonal heating. Overlying snow is indeed 
a good insulator, but I don't know of any bias towards net cooling from winds, 
with net warming assumedly as likely. In fact, as global warming acts to 
prevent heat escape generally, it is likely that the air will be providing a 
net warming effect.

Therefore, reducing spring snow cover will exacerbate permafrost loss. In deep 
winter, less snow cover will be beneficial in the high Arctic (due to reduced 
insulation), but this would profoundly affect local hydrology, if it were 
possible. There is no plausible mechanism to suggest herbivores could clear 
snow in the deep winter..

However, grazing may have no such effect on spring snow. In fact grazing is 
more likely to reduce forest advance, which serves to maintain albedo - forest 
advance likely exacerbating local warming, as described above.

Soil cover from dense, low-lying vegetation serves to improve methane 
metabolism by aerobic microorganisms. If grazing prevents forest advance, it 
will likely constrain methane release. If grazing reduces ground cover, but 
without controlling forest advance, it will likely exacerbate methane release.

Andrew




On 21 Nov 2017 05:05, "Eric Durbrow" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


CBS (in the US) has a usually thoughtful political TV drama called Madame 
Secretary. In the latest episode, the heroine, the US Sec of State, has to 
brainstorm solutions to melting permafrost in Russia and elsewhere releasing 
smallpox and other pathogens. They abandon the ideas of mylar sheet over the 
permafrost and SRM. But their wonder-kid suggest re-introducing large Arctic 
herbivores to create holes in the snow to allow the cold Arctic wind to keep 
the permafrost frozen.

Strength: This is one of the very few cases where climate disasters seem to be 
mention in primetime US TV.

Questions: I’m familiar with the melting permafrost-pathogen situation and the 
methane situation but this fictional solution doesn’t seem very convincing. Is 
it even feasible?

(If you subscribe to CBS Access you can get to the latest episode called North 
to the Future. You ***might**** also find it on 
youtube.com<http://youtube.com>. Its also possible that people outside the US 
get CBS shows on Netflix.)

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