Thanks Mark. You start off the piece saying that "optimism is necessary", but I would think a more important necessity is solving the climate problem. As you say, emissions scenarios from high places clearly tell us that at this late date we will very likely fail with an emissions-reduction-only posture. So I am unclear where the "moral hazard" is in evaluating or even discussing additional methods (except possible hazards to the emission-reduction lobby/stakeholders(?)). The greatest hazard we face is antho climate change (+ ocean acidification). If the experts tell us this is not getting solved by known methods in the time remaining, isn't it a moral imperative rather than a moral hazard that we actively solicit and evaluate additional methods? At the moment I think an issue more pressing than global governance is whether or not we actually have any cost-effective and acceptable-risk options worth governing. That question can only be answered by R&D and testing, which can then be used to inform whether or in what form governance is needed (and to find out if any optimism justified). Couldn't too little, too much or the wrong kind of CE governance also prove hazardous to reaching our climate objectives? Greg
From: Mark Turner <markalistairtur...@gmail.com> To: geoengineering <geoengineering@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:34 PM Subject: [geo] The 'other' moral hazard... The latest blog from Carnegie Climate Geoengineering Governance Initiative. https://www.c2g2.net/optimism-vs-prudence-geo-governance/ "Climate communicators have worked hard to create a more optimistic brand of messaging. “We can still beat this, as long as we cut emissions more quickly,” goes the refrain. But at what point does such optimism become counterproductive, if its assumptions are no longer true?"-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.