Forests also create biogenic aerosols, which influence both albedo and
rainfall. This is a complex effect, as
A) emissions aren't constant, typically rising in hot weather
B) rainfall effects vary depending on local conditions, especially
background aerosol pollution.

The smoky mountains are well-known for this effect

A

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018, 01:54 Jessica Gurevitch, <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I haven't read the paper, but forests also have a cooling effect due to
> transpiration (and can benefit regional rainfall if the forest is large
> enough). Also, the soil is much cooler under a forest than when the forest
> is cut; not sure what this does beyond a regional level (i.e. maybe this
> effect is lost at a global scale?). Biodiversity losses from natural
> forests (as opposed to tree plantations) are another thing to consider,
> whether they 'count' as ecosystem service losses or some other
> valuation--e.g., without trees, soil erosion and even landslides can occur
> (depending on topography and other factors) and result in various short and
> long term costs.
>
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> Jessica Gurevitch
> Professor
> Department of Ecology and Evolution
> Stony Brook University
> Stony Brook, NY 11794-5245 USA
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>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Russell Seitz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> This is the first  article I have seen to  economically formalize how to
>> weigh the climatic and social  cost of  agricultural albedo change against
>> the carbons sequestration and land and  crop value benefits of farming and
>> forestry
>>
>> A the authors note :
>>
>> "The value of land in both uses is decreased by the warming impact of
>> albedo
>>
>> [(14) and (16)]. Carbon sequestration acts as an opposite force (16).
>> These two
>>
>> forces also contribute to the optimal timber harvest decision (17): the
>> clear-
>>
>> cutting stops the carbon sequestration and releases the sequestered carbon
>>
>> with a given time profile, but prevents albedo warming caused by a dense
>>
>> forest stand. The relative effect of these forces is determined by the
>> natural
>>
>> properties of the stand (stand growth, carbon release from carbon pools
>> and
>>
>> the strength of albedo’s warming power), and the prices assigned to carbon
>>
>> and albedo. The interplay of the natural processes and the prices of the
>>
>> externalities determines the optimal harvesting behavior and land use."
>>
>>
>> i intend to alert them to the relevance of their methodology to other
>> areas of anthopogenic albedo change, algricultural reservoir albedo
>> included/
>>
>> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 10:35:47 AM UTC-4, Andrew Lockley wrote:
>>>
>>> Market-Level Implications of
>>> Regulating Forest Carbon Storage and
>>> Albedo for Climate Change Mitigation
>>> Aapo Rautiainen, Jussi Lintunen, and Jussi Uusivuori
>>> We explore the optimal regulation of forest carbon and albedo for
>>> climate change
>>> mitigation. We develop a partial equilibrium market-level model with
>>> socially
>>> optimal carbon and albedo pricing and characterize optimal land
>>> allocation and
>>> harvests. We numerically assess the policy’s market-level impacts on land
>>> allocation, harvests, and climate forcing, and evaluate how parameter
>>> choices
>>> (albedo strength, productivity of forest land, and carbon and albedo
>>> prices) affect
>>> the outcomes. Carbon pricing alone leads to an overprovision of climate
>>> benefits
>>> at the expense of food and timber production. Complementing the policy
>>> with
>>> albedo pricing reduces these welfare losses.
>>> Key Words: albedo, carbon, climate, externality, forest, harvest, land
>>> use,
>>> optimization, timber
>>>
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