Algae doesn't lighten the sea. It darkens it in the IR, which is dominant.
Nadine Mengis and I looked into this; we presented at CEC-14, but didn't
publish.

Andrew Lockley

On Sun, 16 Sep 2018, 07:59 Franz Dietrich Oeste, <
oe...@gm-ingenieurbuero.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The basis of the MCB method of Salter et al. is sea water. Sea water is a
> salty water with a slightly alkaline pH value above 7. The ISA method
> generated FeCl3 aerosol (ISA) has an acidic pH around 2.
> This are not the only differences of the methods: The ocean surface needs
> an efficient cooling to prevent from hurricane developement. Salter's
> method delivers this cooling *only* by cloud whitening. The ISA method
> use cloud whitening plus several additional cooling methods like sea
> surface whitening/brightening by algae, methane depletion..... According to
> this much more efficient sea surface cooling the ISA method is the better
> hurricane prevention than MCB.
>
> Another article about the physics of hurricanes below.
>
> Best,
> Franz
>
> ------ Originalnachricht ------
> Von: "Russell Seitz" <russellse...@gmail.com>
> An: "geoengineering" <geoengineering@googlegroups.com>
> Gesendet: 16.09.2018 00:49:39
> Betreff: [geo] Re: Hurricane moderation
>
> Stephen, I'd direct your editors to Kerry Emmanuel's seminal paper on
> hurricane track cooling, as the published basis for considering both
> hurricane track cloud nucleation and sea surface albedo modulation to
> moderate strorms
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 4:19:10 AM UTC-4, Stephen Salter wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I was asked to write something about hurricanes for a well known popular
>> news outlet but they thought that it was too technical. However it might
>> still be useful.   I hope that the ETC group can comment.
>>
>> The formation of a hurricane depends on many factors including
>> atmospheric water vapour, distance from the equator and the recent history
>> of wind patterns.   But an essential requirement is a high sea surface
>> temperature. To get from a tropical storm to the lowest category of
>> hurricane requires a temperature of 26.5 C.  We can moderate hurricanes,
>> or even prevent them, by reducing water temperature.
>>
>> A useful start to any engineering project is the estimation of all the
>> energy flows. One cubic metre of air at a temperature of 30 C can hold
>> about 30 grams of water vapour. The energy to evaporate this is about the
>> same as in 13 grams of TNT, enough for a nasty anti-personnel mine.  A
>> cubic kilometre of such air contains the same energy as the Hiroshima bomb.
>> Hurricanes can be hundreds of kilometres in diameter and so contain tens
>> of thousands of Hiroshimas.  If you have read this far you will know
>> about the billions of lost dollars and thousands of deaths from this amount
>> of energy.
>>
>> Most of the hurricanes that reach America (with the exception of Harvey),
>> start on the African side of the Atlantic near Cape Verde and grow as they
>> move west. We can use Google Earth to measure the hurricane breeding area.
>>  The US National Weather Service gives a warm water depth of 45 metres.
>> To cool this volume by 2 C in 200 days needs more than 600 times the mean
>> US electricity power generation. If you want to moderate a hurricane
>> tomorrow, today is much too late.  You should have started last
>> November.
>>
>> All this heat has come from the sun.  Some could be reflected back out
>> to space by clouds. The reflectivity of clouds was studied by Sean Twomey.
>> He flew over many clouds, scooped samples and measured the solar energy
>> reflected from their tops.  He showed that reflectivity depends on the
>> size distribution of drops.  Lots of small drops reflect more than the
>> same amount of liquid water in fewer, larger ones.  In typical
>> conditions, doubling the cloud drop number increases reflectivity by a bit
>> over 0.05.
>>
>> Making cloud drops needs a high humidity but also some kind of ‘seed’
>> called a condensation nucleus on which to start growth.  There are
>> thousands of condensation nuclei per cubic centimetre of air over land but
>> fewer in air over mid ocean, often less than 50. John Latham suggested that
>> the salt residues left from the evaporation of a spray of sub-micron drops
>> of sea water would be excellent condensation nuclei. They would be moved
>> from the sea surface by turbulence to produce a fairly even distribution
>> upwards through the marine boundary layer to where clouds form.
>>
>> The condensation nuclei could be produced by wind-driven sailing vessels
>> cruising along the hurricane breeding areas getting energy from their
>> motion through the water. We can make spray by pumping water through very
>> small nozzles etched in the silicon wafers used for making microchips. The
>> main technical problem is that sea water is full of plankton much larger
>> than nozzles.  This can be filtered using ultra-filtration technology
>> with back-flushing, originally developed for removing polio viruses from
>> drinking water. Each vessel would produce 0.8 micron diameter drops at 10
>> 17 a second.
>>
>> Spray operations would depend on the pattern of sea surface temperatures
>> as measured by satellites. We want the trajectory of temperature rises
>> through the year from November to the following July to be those that an
>> international panel of meteorologists think will give a desirable rainfall
>> pattern from ‘gentle’ tropical storms.
>>
>> Most ships are made in quite small numbers.  An exception was the Flower
>> class corvettes built for the Royal Navy during World War II. If we
>> index-link the 1940 cost to today we can predict that in mass production
>> each spray vessel would cost $4 million. With assumptions which have not
>> yet been rejected by hurricane experts, we think that controlling the
>> Atlantic hurricane breeding paths would need about 100 vessels.  With
>> typical ship lifetime the annual ownership and maintenance cost would be
>> about $40 million. If these figures and recent estimates of the cost of
>> hurricane damage are correct the benefit-to-cost ratio is quite attractive.
>>
>>
>> Because of official UK Government policy updated in May 2018 the project
>> is privately funded.
>>
>> I will send anyone who asks an update on recent hardware development,
>> still privately funded.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>> --
>> Emeritus Professor of Engineering Design, School of Engineering, Mayfield
>> Road, University of Edinburgh EH9 3DW, Scotland
>>
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