The main reason to put in the middle of the ocean (or the first range of 
mountains that the air mass encounters) is to have a very stable atmosphere 
above the observatory, though it is true that Mt. Wilson above Pasadena used to 
be a very good site before the aerosol and light pollution…

Laser guide stars are 589nm (sodium)… My guess would be that the main effect 
would simply be a loss of photons from scattering; both the upward laser and 
the downward light from the sodium layer at 90km, so a squared effect, but 
still, if one is talking about 5% or so loss of light (to get 1% reflected back 
to space), not a huge deal.  But I should ask…

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Russell Seitz
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:14 PM
To: geoengineering <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [geo] Re: SRM optical impacts

Stephen

Some of the biggest telescopes have been atop tall islands in the middle of the 
ocean like Hawaii and Grand Canaria to get away from light pollution and dust 
and aerosol scattering on land.

Douglas

I mentioned the UV because the  medical concernns Andrew mentioned largely 
arise from short wavelength photons. Can you tell us how stratospheric aerosols 
might effect the preformance of  the laser guide stars on which deformable 
mirror correction systems depend-   would  ring images be a problem at the 
diffraction limit?

The  dimensionless aerosol scattering efficiency coefficient Ms is of the order 
of the Mie  integral of the number density over the range from  r max to r min-

Q Ms (r) πr2n (r) drQMs (r) π r2N (r) dr




On Sunday, April 7, 2019 at 10:08:37 AM UTC-4, Stephen Salter wrote:

Russell

Some of my best friends are astronomers but few of them use telescopes in mid 
ocean so you and I can remain on good terms.

Stephen
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On 07/04/2019 14:31, Russell Seitz wrote:
Why would  reductions  in the  downwelling tropospheric light flux increase any 
of the above?    I'd instead  ask instrumental  astromomers what they think SO2 
scattering would do in the UV , as they have a lot to lose from  scattered 
light, which can  cost them contrast and  degrade the signal to noise ratio in 
interferometry and spectroscopy.

Try the Magellan and OWL teams

On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 7:47:35 AM UTC-4, Andrew Lockley wrote:
Has there been any investigation of SRM effects on vision? Eg perceived glare, 
macular degeneration, corneal sunburn, vision development in infants, object 
recognition when driving (and their equivalent in animals)?

Andrew Lockley
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