Alan, the assertion that ;’if your first message is that mitigation is not 
enough, of course your conclusion is that we need SRM.’ is not necessarily 
true. For example, the CCC in the UK concluded mitigation was not enough for us 
to reach net zero by 2050, and concluded massive carbon removal, and no SRM. 
(the amount of carbon removal they concluded was, of course, questionable, but 
they never concluded SRM) Similarly, almost every scenario in the IPCC 1.5 
report required some degree of carbon rewmoval, be it through ‘nature based 
solutions’ or BECCS. 
‘Enough’ in common discourse since the 1.5 report generally refers to reaching 
no more than 1.5 degrees, and to do that, mitigation alone is not enough. Bear 
in mind the C2G works on both increasing governance and discussions of GGR as 
well as SRM, and in this context, it is more likely this betrays a genuine 
belief we need some sort of GGR than any belief we need SRM.

From: Alan Robock
Sent: 12 September 2019 19:39
To: [email protected]; geoengineering
Subject: Re: [geo] youth-infographic.pdf

But this is all based on a false premise.  It says:

To stop global warming,
we must stop burning
fossil fuels,
as soon as possible.
But scientists tell us
that’s not enough.

This is very misleading.  Enough for what?  Certainly if we stop burning fossil 
fuels, global warming will not stop immediately, but it will stop soon.  And 
Mark Jacobson has plans for shifting the whole world to Sun and wind now, which 
will be enough to avoid the worst impacts of global warming.  So some 
scientists say this, particularly those who are positively biased to SRM 
implementation, and others do not.

If your first message is that mitigation is not enough, of course your 
conclusion is that we need SRM.

Alan

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On Thu, 9/12/19 2:28 PM, Andrew Lockley wrote:
This is potentially a very good resource for people to use in education for 
pre-university children
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