I am in the Hubert camp, as well. As Andrew and a few others know, I’ve been part of the list from the beginning. I’m not active right now, but I watch closely.
Recently, the group moderators acknowledged a shift away from a professional research orientation here, and more of a focus on broad interest. That’s fine, but to me that suggests that we’re more likely to see pieces posted here that cross the artificial boundary between solar radiation geo and CO2 removal geo, and that go places not adequately covered by those two terms. Also, we’re likely to see more social science and politics of geo pieces here, which often touch on all forms. Finally, if this group has embraced the notion that it’s a general audience list, then it should bias towards terms that would be broadly recognized. Like it or not, geoengineering has become the widely used term. Anyway, that’s my take. cheers Jamais Cascio > On Oct 21, 2019, at 1:57 PM, 'Nils' via geoengineering > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > I am part of the Hubert-camp, if that issue is still open for discussion. > > Nils > > > Von: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Im > Auftrag von Ernie Rogers > Gesendet: Montag, 21. Oktober 2019 21:11 > An: Andrew Lockley <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Cc: Jane Flegal <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Hiroshi > Mizutani <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; > geoengineering <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Betreff: Re: [geo] Renaming this Group - Solar Geoengineering or SRM > Geoengineering > > I think the name change is in order. Further, "geoengineering" literally > means engineering of earth. We should preserve that. > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:29 AM Andrew Lockley <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Greg's CDR group was split off by others. It wasn't my decision. It quickly >> became apparent that duplication of all the CDR content across both groups >> was unproductive. >> >> This group remains called geoengineering, unless and until there's a >> decision to change. I'm in no rush, and it seems only MVB is keen. >> >> I have *no problem with cross cutting posts*, or with cross posting to both >> lists. I think exclusive CDR content should go elsewhere, and I recommend >> Greg's CDR group (which I don't moderate, but post on). >> >> I put CCT in with SRM, because that's it's natural home (it doesn't affect >> carbon cycle much, has similar governance to SRM). If we get pedantic and >> split CCT out, we'd similarly also have to consider SRM as CDR, because of >> its carbon cycle effect. >> >> I'd welcome further discussion. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, 17:31 Jane Flegal, <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> I agree with Professor Hubert, for what it is worth. In addition to the >>> substantive benefits of maintaining a broader frame in this group >>> (including, but not limited to, the benefits of facilitating >>> interdisciplinary collaboration and understanding), it strikes me as >>> premature to "split" in this narrow forum (for reasons that remain unclear >>> to me) before broader societal conversations about "lumping" and >>> "splitting" have had a chance to evolve. >>> >>> Jane Flegal, PhD <> >>> Program Officer, Environment >>> The Bernard and Anne Spitzer Charitable Trust >>> 555 Madison Avenue, 18th Floor >>> New York, NY 10022 >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:53 AM Hiroshi Mizutani <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I second Assistant Professor Anna-Maria Hubert. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Hiroshi MIZUTANI >>>> Senior Research Scientist >>>> Institute of Sociogeochemistry >>>> E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> geoengineering network forum (English: >>>> http://geoeng.brs.nihon-u.ac.jp/english/index.html >>>> <http://geoeng.brs.nihon-u.ac.jp/english/index.html>) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "geoengineering" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CAFW2aeE3dNqJ2DS4Cy6c7PJt4WCpPoMxNjSbB%2BfTGyPoi%2B_cYA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CAFW2aeE3dNqJ2DS4Cy6c7PJt4WCpPoMxNjSbB%2BfTGyPoi%2B_cYA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jane Flegal >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "geoengineering" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CA%2BhEjTU1V8_1asFPWUib2TZtB5Waf2j0tsq27_ZTcFbfvE3zQg%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CA%2BhEjTU1V8_1asFPWUib2TZtB5Waf2j0tsq27_ZTcFbfvE3zQg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "geoengineering" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CAJ3C-067FUdG9G2AYXiAU-6_jLbWWbxDGrwps5%2BAO2LAJOUt8Q%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CAJ3C-067FUdG9G2AYXiAU-6_jLbWWbxDGrwps5%2BAO2LAJOUt8Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CAKX06aqSFJcQJnn6XvEs3n-nWobVBG4pqVwAAzE9nKGTVs1U5w%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CAKX06aqSFJcQJnn6XvEs3n-nWobVBG4pqVwAAzE9nKGTVs1U5w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/007401d58852%2430a05f50%2491e11df0%24%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/007401d58852%2430a05f50%2491e11df0%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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