This illustrates a central paradox of conservation economics: water tends 
to be too cheap to conserve relative to the mass of  costly materials 
needed to conserve it.

 With costs  upwards of a Euro per square meter  using  sturdy textiles to 
 save a hectare meter of ice on a sunny slope can rarely compete with 
 piping water in from cooler north slopes. As with Christo's wrapped 
buildings, the Swiss project is more a work of conceptual art than water 
conservation.
On Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 3:45:27 AM UTC-4 Veli Albert Kallio wrote:

> Whilst wholly agreeing the conclusions of the study that the use of 
> geotextiles would be a distraction to draw funds away from decarbonisation, 
> it must be said that some countries dependent on water supplies from 
> glaciers can buy time by covering ice to remain longer as frozen reservoir 
> of water. It could also offer potential easement on excessive flooding by 
> spreading melt water pulses wider. It also did not point out that not every 
> glacier needs protection at the moment. While some glaciers would have to 
> be terminally abandoned, others could be taken into protection in their 
> place. Also, when glacier melts away, it no longer needs protection. In the 
> Andes several years ago the World Bank gave US$200,000 for painting a 
> mountain white to reduce local temperatures to enhance ice preservation and 
> snow formation. In Pakistan some tribes have planted glaciers successfully 
> in small scale. Numerous glaciers in high Arctic and Antarctic do not need 
> protection.
>
> I support wholly the argument that the scale of deployment is the biggest 
> obstacles for successful and effective geoengineering, either the scale 
> isn't large enough, or the effect isn't large enough to deliver 
> satisfactory benefits - hence our best option remains decarbonisation and 
> perhaps increasing forests where they can be increased to mop out some of 
> the carbon from the air (but even here scales are not enough).
> ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on 
> behalf of Renaud de RICHTER <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* 16 April 2021 18:43
> *To:* geoengineering <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [geo] [SRM] Geotextiles could slow glacial melt, but at what 
> cost? 
>  
> https://phys.org/news/2021-04-geotextiles-glacial.html 
> Geotextiles could slow glacial melt, but at what cost? 
>
> by Isabel Amos-Landgraf, Earth Institute at Columbia University 
> <https://www.earth.columbia.edu/> 
> [image: image.png]
>
> A researcher stands in front of the Rhone Glacier covered in geotextiles 
> that protect it from accelerated melting. Credit: Matthias Huss 
> <https://vaw.ethz.ch/en/people/person-detail.html?persid=96677> 
>
> In the Swiss Alps, some ski resorts and glacial tourist attractions are 
> using reflective blankets known as geotextiles to protect parts of glaciers 
> from accelerated summer melt caused by global warming. These businesses' 
> stable winter incomes enable them to fund the use of expensive geotextiles 
> during summers. If geotextiles are able to save small portions of glaciers 
> in the Swiss Alps, could they be employed on entire glaciers on a global 
> scale? A study published earlier this year argues that this strategy would 
> inevitably fail. 
>
> Researchers at the University of Fribourg in Switzerland looked at nine 
> different Swiss sites currently using geotextiles to reduce glacial melt, 
> and analyzed the possibility of using geotextiles on a larger scale. While 
> the data in the study showed that these fabrics were able to locally reduce 
> glacial melt by 59%, it also revealed that this strategy is too expensive 
> to protect the more than 450,000 square miles of glaciers 
> <https://phys.org/tags/glaciers/> around the world.
>
> Geotextiles slow summer ice melt in a number of ways. The albedo of the 
> white textiles, or the reflectivity of their surfaces, is about 50% higher 
> than the albedo of glacial ice. When the sun's radiation hits the 
> geotextiles, a large amount of the energy that would have melted the ice is 
> radiated back into the atmosphere. The textiles also collect rain, the 
> evaporation of which cools the glacier. In addition, they provide 
> insulation that stabilizes the ice's cooler temperatures.
>
> At first glance, this technological adaptation to global warming 
> <https://phys.org/tags/global+warming/> is a promising solution for those 
> passionate about glacier preservation. However, like other technological 
> climate change solutions, such as carbon capture and storage or floodwalls, 
> using geotextiles on a large scale is expensive and potentially detrimental 
> to surrounding ecosystems. As a result, they have only been applied on 
> small scales, mostly in an effort to preserve profitable ski runs.
> [image: image.png]
>
> One of the Swiss glaciers in the study covered annually to protect it from 
> melting. Credit: Matthias Huss 
> <https://vaw.ethz.ch/en/people/person-detail.html?persid=96677> 
>
> According to the study, covering glaciers in Switzerland annually costs 
> between 0.60 and 8.50 U.S. dollars per square meter per year. At this rate, 
> the cost of installation and maintenance of a square kilometer of 
> geotextile coverage would range from $600 to $8,500. Using the average of 
> this cost range, $4,550, the cost of covering the total area of Swiss 
> glaciers (1,000 square kilometers) would be $4.5 billion dollars—a 
> significant expense, even for the wealthiest country in the world. The 
> total glacier area on Earth is roughly 250,000 square kilometers. Though 
> the cost per unit area would vary greatly from region to region, a rough 
> initial estimate, based on the cost for Switzerland, places the cost of 
> covering all glaciers at a bit above $1 trillion per year.
>
> Matthias Huss, a glaciologist at the University of Zurich and one of the 
> authors of the study, told GlacierHub why this is not the solution some may 
> hope it is. "You can put a blanket in one place on a glacier, let's say a 
> few hundred square meters, and you can very efficiently protect ice 
> locally. This absolutely works, but it costs 
> <https://phys.org/tags/costs/> a lot of money," he explained. "If you 
> have a corresponding economic revenue from the glacier, then this works. 
> Saving an entire glacier is a completely different story. You would need to 
> cover all of the ice on a much larger scale without a clear income benefit."
>
> Huss and his team of researchers concluded that attempting to prevent 
> glacial melt with geotextiles cannot replace efforts to mitigate greenhouse 
> gas emissions: finding ways to mitigate global warming must take precedence 
> over inefficient and expensive technological solutions to small-scale 
> effects of climate change.
>
> Christian Huggel, a professor of glaciology at the University of Zurich, 
> spoke with GlacierHub about the implications of this study. "The 
> conclusions confirm what we have been saying for a while: such geotextiles 
> may be a temporary solution for a very local problem of glacier loss but 
> are not scalable. And most importantly, they are by no means a solution for 
> the problem of glacier shrinkage," he said. "For this problem, the only 
> solution is to reduce CO2 emissions as much as possible."
>
> While this temporary and local solution does promise an extended life for 
> some of Switzerland's most valued ski slopes, it does not offer a solution 
> <https://phys.org/tags/solution/> for the most dire problem facing the 
> world's glaciers—the climate crisis. 
>
> *More information:* Matthias Huss et al. Quantifying the overall effect 
> of artificial glacier melt reduction in Switzerland, 2005–2019, *Cold 
> Regions Science and Technology* (2021). DOI: 
> 10.1016/j.coldregions.2021.103237 
> <http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.coldregions.2021.103237> 
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