I'm reposting this AGU statement and comments link from Chris Vivian. Ron Baiman
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 4:39 AM Chris Vivian <[email protected]> wrote: > Ron, > > > > You can submit comments at the bottom of the webpage for the draft > statement i.e., > > > https://www.agu.org/Share-and-Advocate/Share/Policymakers/Position-Statements/Draft-Climate-Intervention > > > > Chris. > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Ron Baiman > *Sent:* 12 December 2022 04:17 > *To:* H simmens <[email protected]>; Daniele Visioni < > [email protected]>; Planetary Restoration < > [email protected]>; 'Eelco Rohling' via NOAC > Meetings <[email protected]> > *Cc:* healthy-planet-action-coalition < > [email protected]>; geoengineering < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [geo] AGU Draft position statement on Climate Intervention > > > > Thank you Leslie and Daniele, > > > > This statement is a welcome development and I commend you for helping to > draft it! > > > > I have a question and a couple of comments: > > > > Question: After rejoining the AGU, I've been searching through the AGU > website and cannot find a place to submit comments? > > > > Comments: I'd like to support the draft and urge that it be made both > more urgent as (echoing Robert Chris' comment) there is no other option to > avoid increasing calamity in the short-run, and more inclusive of other > Direct Climate Cooling (DCC) methods some of which have little to no risk > and can and should be rolled out for assessment and deployment > immediately. In this sense greater inclusiveness in DCC methods points to > the practicality of more urgent deployment of local and low-risk methods > even as more global and higher-risk methods are researched and tested > further. The draft mentions "Localized surface albedo modification" noting > that they are "less studied" as a category of Climate Intervention but > neglects to point out and urge that some of these can and should be > immediately (if found to be effective in pilots) deployed with little to no > risk. > > > > A similar problem with (non-CDR) GHG reduction efforts is the seemingly > afterthought treatment of methane removal in the statement that Daphne and > others in this thread have commented on. As I recall from a podcast (Daphne > and others please correct if I'm wrong on this) methods to burn > concentrated anthropogenic and natural methane releases are already > included in GHG offset protocols like that of California. > > > > For documentation of 18 different potential DCC methods including but not > exclusively using SRM, see this final HPAC statement: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TowThwi6j6cX3iLGBRrj22D30cYhKa_9/edit > > , > > Best, > > Ron Baiman > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 12:32 PM H simmens <[email protected]> wrote: > > You will find the American Geophysical Union draft position statement on > Climate Intervention below. I encourage HPAC participants to review this > statement and if you an AGU member to submit your comments by January 9th. > > > > This is an important opportunity to shape AGU intervention policy to be > consistent with HPAC principles. > > > > This page describes the cost and benefits of an AGU membership: > > > > https://www.agu.org/membership > > > > I was surprised to see that a full year membership is only $50 and $20 for > a student. > > > > I would encourage everyone who has a comment on the statement - whether > you are or will become a member or not - to share it with the group. > > > > Any AGU veterans or others who wish to add to what I have written please > do so. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Herb > > Herb Simmens > > Author A Climate Vocabulary of the Future > > @herbsimens > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* Daniele Visioni <[email protected]> > *Date:* December 8, 2022 at 1:03:09 PM EST > *To:* geoengineering <[email protected]> > *Subject:* *[geo] AGU Draft position statement on Climate Intervention* > *Reply-To:* [email protected] > > Dear all, > > Please find below a link to the new Draft position statement on Climate > Intervention by AGU, to which I contributed to for this year. > > > > Draft Position Statement on Climate Intervention > <https://www.agu.org/Share-and-Advocate/Share/Policymakers/Position-Statements/Draft-Climate-Intervention> > > agu.org > <https://www.agu.org/Share-and-Advocate/Share/Policymakers/Position-Statements/Draft-Climate-Intervention> > > > <https://www.agu.org/Share-and-Advocate/Share/Policymakers/Position-Statements/Draft-Climate-Intervention> > > > > Comments are open to all AGU members until January 9th, after which we > will take them into consideration for a final draft to be sent to the AGU > Council and Board for final approval. > > > > At the link you’ll also see the differences between the new proposed one, > and the previous one from 2018. > > > > Best, > > > > Daniele > > > > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > Daniele Visioni, PhD > Research Associate > Sibley School of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering, Cornell > University, Ithaca, NY > US phone: (607)-280-0525 > e-mail: [email protected] > website: https://dan-visioni.github.io/ > Check out our latest published papers: > Scenarios for modeling solar radiation modification > https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2202230119 > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/D4AFE3C5-0F41-4472-989F-E576501D42A5%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/D4AFE3C5-0F41-4472-989F-E576501D42A5%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Healthy Planet Action Coalition (HPAC)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/healthy-planet-action-coalition/33482326-7D3F-4720-A51A-821ADE05A343%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/healthy-planet-action-coalition/33482326-7D3F-4720-A51A-821ADE05A343%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NOAC Meetings" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/noac-meetings/CAPhUB9Cwqe-GPdpB3OokX4BbFP-2J2v3qneeiRW8%2Bff-%3DfFMQQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/noac-meetings/CAPhUB9Cwqe-GPdpB3OokX4BbFP-2J2v3qneeiRW8%2Bff-%3DfFMQQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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