Another thought related to this: how hard would it be to build Maven artifacts 
for OpenLayers, GeoExt and gxp? Then we would not need any svn:externals at all 
(at least for the javascript stuff).

Ah yes, and sorry if this sounds stupid. I neither have much experience with 
Maven nor with git at this point.

Regards,
Andreas.

On May 26, 2010, at 17:15 , David Winslow wrote:

> Just a note: we don't actually modify code in GeoServer and GeoNetwork, we 
> simply pull in pre-built artifacts (from OpenGeo's Maven repository for 
> GeoServer, and from an ad-hoc HTTP server for GeoNetwork) and add a couple of 
> extensions to each.  We could (should?) avoid cloning these into git. 
> 
> --
> David Winslow
> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org/
> 
> On 05/25/2010 06:49 PM, Ariel Nunez wrote:
>> Thanks for pushing this up in the queue David.
>> 
>>  
>> 2 - We mirror all our SVN externals so we can use git submodules to do the 
>> same thing.
>>     Pros - slightly better integration than braid on the client end 
>> (checkout consists of "install git, 
>>       git clone, git submodule update --init";)
>>     Cons - maintaining git clones of svn projects, two-tier process to push 
>> changes back
>>  
>> I like this option a lot, we are using outside dependencies and the 
>> submodule step makes this crystal clear.
>> 
>> From my conversation with David on IRC, the projects are the following:
>>  { 
>> geoext (we follow trunk)
>> openlayers (we follow trunk)
>> geoserver ( we modify )
>> geonetwork (we modify)
>> ext (we follow trunk)
>> gsconfig.py (we follow trunk)
>>  }
>> 
>> The idea would be to setup git forks for those repos under the geonode git 
>> account, like this:
>> github.com/geonode/geoext
>> github.com/geonode/openlayers
>> github.com/geonode/geoserver
>> github.com/geonode/geonetwork
>> github.com/geonode/ext
>> github.com/geonode/gsconfig.py
>> 
>> And put git submodules in this main repo:
>> github.com/geonode/geonode
>> 
>> If anybody does not like the fact that we depend on Github, we always have 
>> the option to setup:
>> git.geonode.org
>> 
>> 3 - We commit all SVN externals directly to the git repository, kind of like 
>> svn vendor branches.
>>     Pros - even better integration than git submodule, when you checkout the 
>> project you get 
>>       everything.
>>     Cons - it takes a bit of digging in the repository to extract diffs to 
>> submit upstream patches, and 
>>       even bringing in updates is kind of a pain.
>>  
>> It is true this option may be the simplest for new users but I don't like 
>> the fact that patches are against "Geonode's version of X project" instead 
>> of the actual project. "Explicit is better than implicit", so #2 is still my 
>> favorite.
>>  
>> But I'm open to alternatives/arguments.  However, let's try and be 
>> git-friendly by, say, Friday next week?  I'm not aware of a hard deadline 
>> but at the rate this discussion's been going we'll never get converted.
>> 
>>  +1 The sooner the better. 
>> 
>> Ariel
> 

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