Thanks for the explanation Gabriel.

When those changes are integrated to the 2.1.x branch would it be
posible to download a nightly build from geoserver.org and then just
drop the geoserver-geonode.jar plugin in the right directory to do the
auth override?

If that is the case, do you think it would make sense to put such a
plugin as a community module in GeoServer and take it out of the
github repo? In my humble opinion we could start with a community
module, then in a few months try to become an extension and find our
way into the default extensions bundled with GeoServer, so that people
can enable GeoNode compliance with just setting the GEONODE_BASE_URL
in web.xml or the environment.

I am going to think more about this and try to come up with a more
complete proposal, but would love to hear feedback from the community.

Ariel.

> The situation will be reverted to depend on vanilla geoserver 2.1.x
> branch once it's open for new developments again (i.e. after the 2.1.0
> release of geoserver, which should be next week).
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Cheers,
> Gabriel
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>> Of David Winslow
>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:54 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [geonode] GeoNode stability and the 1.1 release series
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, we need to use a custom build of GeoServer in order to allow
>> GeoServer to respect Django's user system instead of its own.  If you
>> want to talk about how to make GeoNode work with an uncustomized
>> GeoServer we can have that discussion, but I am not convinced it is a
>> big problem: apart from ignoring the security/ subdirectory of the
>> datadir, GeoNode's GeoServer reads the same configuration files.  If
>> you do need an unmodified GeoServer, could you explain a bit more
>> about why that's the case?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> David Winslow
>>
>>
>> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org/
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Spanring, Christian
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks David, that sounds fantastic!
>>
>>
>>
>> One quick question: will GeoNode 1.1 still depend on a custom build of
>> GeoServer (as 1.0) or will 1.1 be able to use a regular GeoServer 2.1
>> build?
>>
>>
>>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>> Of David Winslow
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:53 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [geonode] GeoNode stability and the 1.1 release series
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We've already mentioned this in passing to some folks on this mailing
>> list, but just to officially publicize it: we are no longer planning
>> any further releases from the GeoNode 1.0 series.  The PSC has
>> discussed this and the next release will be 1.1-beta.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The main reason for this decision is that investigations into the
>> stability of GeoNode have reached a point where the most promising
>> options open to us are reliant on the 2.1.x release series of
>> GeoServer (two examples being the GWC integration which greatly
>> decreases GeoNode's resource consumption, and the control-flow module
>> which also reduces resource consumption (in a different way.) However,
>> the features already implemented on the 1.1 release series are already
>> compelling:
>>
>>
>>       * GeoServer 2.1 (many improvements including better raster
>>         handling and tight GeoWebCache integration)
>>       * UI Improvements (previously intended as the main improvement
>>         for the 1.0.1 release.)
>>       * Improved GeoNode security system (caching, more reliable
>>         technique for overriding GeoServer's builtin security)
>>       * Performance improvements in the gsconfig Python module used
>>         for syncing the Django and GeoServer layer info
>>       * Cookie-awareness for OWSLib (a cookie workaround is already
>>         implemented in GeoNode, but if the patch submitted to OWSLib
>>         is accepted in time then we will be using "native" cookie
>>         support)
>>       * The upload functionality in GeoNode will be "refactored"
>>         providing better reliability and, importantly, error reporting
>>         to assist troubleshooting.  Thanks to the Risiko team for
>>         these improvements.
>>       * Upload-to-PostGIS functionality in the upload form (gsconfig
>>         already has support for this and we expect a patch for the
>>         GeoNode code that uses it before the beta release. Thanks to
>>         the Worldmap team for this.)
>>       * Improved Unit and Integration testing suites for the Django
>>         components of GeoNode, including a Continuous Integration
>>         server to ensure that all changes that go into the GeoNode
>>         core are tested, regardless of potentially forgetful
>>         developers.
>> We would like to put the release out after the upcoming roadmapping
>> summit to be held in Washington DC.  It is tentatively scheduled for
>> May 27.  Ariel, Seb, and I will be sprinting on "sprucing up" the
>> synth branch in anticipation of the release during the week of May 16
>> (right before the summit.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the interim, there are some configuration changes that can be made
>> on GeoNode 1.0 installations to improve their stability, although even
>> with these changes we have seen some outages.  We'll provide a more
>> detailed writeup soon but in short:
>>
>>
>>       * There is a patch available which greatly improves the way that
>>         the Django component communicates with GeoNetwork.
>>       * Constraining the number of concurrent requests GeoServer will
>>         attempt to serve simultaneously will help to avoid OOM
>>         exceptions.
>>       * Some additional configuration can greatly improve the
>>         speed with which GeoServer handles requests, allowing it to
>>         have fewer concurrent requests (each request spends less time
>>         being handled so fewer of them must be handled at a time for
>>         the same request volume.)
>> There is also an experimental branch of gsconfig.py which reduces
>> internal traffic within GeoNode.  This is a drop-in replacement for
>> the gsconfig module included with GeoNode 1.0, but is not as
>> well-tested (unit test coverage is the same but it hasn't been tested
>> much "in the field").  I would be interested in reports from any users
>> who try this out.  It is a 100% reversible modification so if it
>> doesn't work for you it is straightforward to switch back.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, we will be providing detailed instructions for applying these
>> changes; they just have not yet been written up.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> David Winslow
>>
>>
>> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
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