Hi Tim;

The OGC model of open web services is in fact very heavy. Some of the 
later specifications include a number so you can tell if your local 
cache is any good .... you will actually find that GeoServer is one of 
the faster WMS servers out there; Ionic servers are much much slower and 
often have thousands of layers "cascaded" into the same capabilities 
document from a couple of services.

I am not sure I want to see the abilities of the server changed just to 
keep the browser happy. Making the configuration option and putting this 
in the hands of users seems the best idea, could we change the 
configuration used for the example configuration we include with 
GeoServer?(but then I wonder if people will ever find the rest...).

Jody

Tim Schaub wrote:
> Hey-
>
> A small exercise with my results next to each step.
>
> 1) Click:
> http://sigma.openplans.org/geoserver/ows?SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetCapabilities
> (wait 3 seconds)
> 2) Save the result to your desktop, call it ows.xml.
> 3) Drag ows.xml into Firefox (wait 10 seconds).
>
> Granted, the delay in step one is largely my fault for living in the 
> boonies.  I'm mostly concerned about the delay in step 3.
>
> A 10 second delay in a web application is enough time for me to decide 
> things are broken.  This delay is what it takes the native DOM parser to 
> deal with the capabilities response - just to display the resulting 
> purple, black, and blue DOM tree.  Extracting any useful information out 
> of this doc requires additional parsing time, and displaying something 
> more meaningful (than the purple, black, and blue DOM tree) requires 
> extra rendering time.
>
> I know folks can configure things to limit the SRS list in the 
> capabilities doc 
> (http://geoserver.org/display/GEOSDOC/Common+OWS+Configuration).  My 
> question is if others think it makes sense to start out with a limited set.
>
> Would it be possible to have a smarter default?  Seems like three 
> options for controlling SRS in capabilities would be nice:
>
> 1) all (current default)
> 2) native + limited set (proposed smart default)
> 3) limited set (current alternative to default)
>
> (Trimming the list down to a more reasonable 10 cuts the native parser 
> time down to a fraction of a second.)
>
> Thanks for any feedback.
> Tim
>
> PS - I know the browser is not the client folks have in mind when 
> designing W*S specs, but it is a pretty important player in the W part.
>
>
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