It does seem like having 'dump entire catalog' functionality would be 
useful (for migrating between different persistence mechanisms) so (for 
another compromises solution) maybe we could just have a button to 
download/snapshot the catalog and leave it up to the admin to handle 
backup policy.

-David

Andrea Aime wrote:
> Justin Deoliveira ha scritto:
>>
>>> I share the same concern. We do want to save along the way since we
>>> cannot be sure there will be a clean shutdown (jvm segfaults anybody?),
>>> so eventually on shutdown we'd just be saving whatever was already
>>> saved the last time the config did change?
>>
>> Yeah its a darned if you do darned if you don't sort of thing. On the 
>> one hand saving when the user decides to from the ui or at shutdown 
>> allows the ability to rollback or revert changes. Auto-saving 
>> everytime something gets modified removes the ability to do that but 
>> prevents loss of data when the system crashes.
>>
>> I wonder if we could introduce the idea of a session (and i dont 
>> really mean page session here) to get best of both worlds. Basically 
>> instead of saving directly to persistence we save to a session. The 
>> session is persisted immediately to disk whenever a change occurs. If 
>> the user decides to save changes from the session are persisted. In 
>> the event of a jvm crash GeoServer could detect that the session was 
>> not saved and restore it so no work is lossed. Not sure if it will 
>> work or its worth the effort, just a crazy idea.
>
> So basically instead of having the DTO on top of catalog, we have their
> cousins below it? ;) (ok, I understand you can store stuff in whatever
> way you want, not necessarily objects).
>
> For what it's worth, I'd just go to the direct save route. People
> are working directly against databases with a lot of software, and
> none of it give you the "undo/redo" ability of a desktop app without
> much complaints.
>
> Wait... what did I just say? Undo/redo huh? We _could_ in fact store
> on the disk a list of commands that morph the catalog and allow
> people to actually undo their changes... that would be a first for
> server side apps. And of course, it assumes a single admin model, or
> else, we'd have to mark changes with the user that performed them
> (with the new security subsystem any user can have the ROLE_ADMNISTRATOR
> role).
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
> !DSPAM:4040,486244e433951637810514!
>


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