Hi Roger.

> Would there be any way to make sure JAI was installed? And maybe some 
> instructions on how to get both the Java SDK( like which one, the Sun site 
> is confusing.) and JAI.

Can you elaborate on this?  I don't think you need to download JAI to run 
GeoServer, right?  (I'm no expert on this sort of thing.)

> Request: An easier way to install GDAL extensions.

Well, I'd like a better plugin architecture in general.  :)  But I think 
unfortunately that it may be out of scope for this particular project.



Thanks,
Mike Pumphrey
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org


Roger Bedell wrote:
> My .02?
> 
> Would there be any way to make sure JAI was installed? And maybe some 
> instructions on how to get both the Java SDK( like which one, the Sun site 
> is confusing.) and JAI.
> 
> Request: An easier way to install GDAL extensions.
> 
> I'll second the service thing. That was a little hard to figure out.
> 
> Roger
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Justin Deoliveira" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:41 PM
> To: "Mike Pumphrey" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Geoserver-devel" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Geoserver-devel] What would you want in a Windows installer?
> 
>> A couple of things:
>>
>> * The second screen that tells the user which JDK will be used, or barks
>> when there is no JDK. I have literally seen users cringe in pain when
>> this screen pops up. It is way too much text, the text is poorly laid
>> out, etc...
>>
>> In my opinion this would much better be replaced with a screen "Choose
>> Java" and basically is a text box and file chooser which allows one to
>> choose the Java install they want. Basically the same way the screen
>> that allows you choose the installation directory works.
>>
>> * The data directory screen could use some love to. Too much text on it.
>> To me a windows installer should basically do everything for you, and
>> give you the option to do an "Advanced..." install if you really want
>> to. But first time users of GeoServer having to read though the details
>> of how the data directory works (often when they do not even really know
>> what a data directory is) is bad.
>>
>> -JD
>>
>>
>> Mike Pumphrey wrote:
>>> It's no secret that the current Windows GeoServer installer and 
>>> executable is a bit rough around the edges.  It works, but it isn't as 
>>> slick as it could be.  For one thing, GeoServer isn't installed as a 
>>> service, and the fact that the command prompt pops up and stays there is 
>>> definitely sub-optimal.  :)
>>>
>>> GeoServer works with the Java Service Wrapper (albeit with a little bit 
>>> of tweaking) so it's very possible to use the BIN version of GeoServer, 
>>> add in some wrapper config, and a perfectly good service we have.
>>>
>>> So, with all this in mind, I'd like to solicit opinions about what people 
>>> like and dislike in the Windows GeoServer experience, both with the 
>>> installer and with running GeoServer.  (Just the EXE I'm curious about 
>>> here; I know some people use the BIN and WAR in Windows.)
>>>
>>> I'm also designing a new flowchart for the installer.  Here's what I have 
>>> so far:  (After making this list, I found that this is pretty much 
>>> screen-by-screen identical to what Tomcat does for its installation 
>>> process which is auspicious.)
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> 1. Splash screen
>>> 2. Welcome screen
>>> 3. Find %JAVA_HOME%
>>>    3a. If found, display window
>>>    3b. If not found, prompt for location, set in environment variable, 
>>> add %JAVA_HOME%\bin to path.
>>> 4. License screen
>>> 5. Components screen - Two check boxes:  [GeoServer (mandatory), data 
>>> directory (optional)]
>>> 6. Program file destination screen
>>> 7. Find %GEOSERVER_DATA_DIR%
>>>    7a. If found, display window with dropdown [use this, change this]
>>>       7a1. If [change this] go to Select Data Dir, otherwise skip
>>>    7b. If not found, go to Select Data Dir
>>> 8. Select Data Dir - Type in a location (with validation?)
>>> 9. Install as service screen [automatic, manual]
>>> 10. Start Menu screen
>>> 11. Ready to install screen
>>> 12. Install stuff
>>> 13. Finished screen
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Things to note:
>>>   (3b) adds %JAVA_HOME%\bin to the path.  This is what we want to do, 
>>> right?
>>>   (5) makes installing the built-in data dir optional.  What do you think 
>>> of this?
>>>   (9) I would think the default should be automatic, right?
>>>
>>> I'm not 100% sure that everything here is possible, but NSIS seems pretty 
>>> elastic, so I'm hopeful.
>>>
>>> Feedback is practically begged for.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike Pumphrey
>>> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
>>>
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