hello Jody,

my comments are in-lined

Jody Garnett wrote:
>>> current GeoServer is at version 2.0 (unstable) / 1.7.6 (stable), we have
>>> installations out there that have GeoServer versions 1.5.4b and 1.6.4b!
>> Both dead for a long time
>>
> Dead may be too strong a word; a critical patch done for a paying
> customer would be fine. The difficulty is that the developers no
> longer have a checkout; so there is an over head associated with
> grabbing the code; making a fix; deploying it for someone to test; and
> then finally issuing a dot release. These overheads add up restricting
> it to a paid activity.
> 
> It is also worth noting that these overheads are not present in when
> working on trunk since a release will be coming out later in the
> month; making it much cheaper for everyone to be involved.

noted.  i was trying to make the point that there's a time lag between a 
release of a (really stable) version of GeoServer and a similar one for 
a product that includes that version.  in my case the product in 
question does not have a once-a-month release.


>>> * 2-3 days testing is not enough.  for my type of application, at least
>>> 1-week is more like it.  having a 4-6 weeks notice would also mean that
>>> this testing period can be better planned.
> 
> From our standpoint it is worth asking you to put in that kind of
> effort for the 2.0 release. My fear is that your team will try testing
> in earnest after the release has gone out when it is much more
> expensive to fix; especially with respect to any API changes.
> 
> If your team can test your application against a "sample" 2.0 release
> the changes between 2.0.1, 2.0.2 etc will be much smaller in nature.
> 
>> bug fixes to the 1.7.x series and make releases. Lisasoft expressed
>> some interest in that and is helping with the current 1.7.x releases,
>> which the dev team would have already abandoned otherwise (so thank
>> you Lisasoft, 1.7.6 might not have been there without your help).
> 
> We are actual in the same neck of the woods as Raif - so if you want
> to join us in making the next 1.7.x release come on over and we will
> buy beer.

cool!  moving from 1.5/1.6 to 1.7 sounds less risky for me than to 2.0 
right now.  spending time on testing 1.7 releases in my case is a better 
value proposition.  let me know when the next round is about to start.


> Actually Raif I am having trouble hunting down a location for an extra
> day of code sprint. If possible I would like to corner the deegree
> developers and get an initial cut of the geometry module out while
> everyone is in the same city. Is there any chance we could hack at
> your offices on the Sunday after the conference?

i'll talk to you about this off the list.


>> As an alternative there are commercial support companies that can
>> be "persuaded" to port back selected bug fixes and make further releases
>> out of dead branches.
> 
> Just so.


cheers;
rsn

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