On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Andrea Aime
<andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it>wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Chris Holmes <chol...@opengeo.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 - awesome work. And I'd love to see it in 2.3.x
>>
>> Was there a reason other than lack of time to not make the jdbc
>> connection easier to use? Like it seems to be a much more user friendly way
>> would be to let users first have an option choose a datastore connection
>> they've already established, instead of picking drivers and the like. And
>> then to show the current thing as an advanced option. What's there now is
>> definitely a great first step, and more than sufficient to get in right
>> now. But am just curious if there are blockers to making things easier, or
>> was just lack of time.
>>
>
> Lack of time was the number one issue, but there is more.
>
> First off, the general design of GWC pointed in that direction, GWC is
> more low level, more oriented towards the control of the little
> details (e.g., for how rich the integration GUI in GeoServer is, it still
> lacks some important options for production grade tile serving, like
> controlling etags and expiry, or setting up cache masks to avoid caching
> tiles over the sea).
>
> Also, for how much user friendly the current datastore support in
> GeoServer is still lacking a number of advanced options that one
> can only control by manipulating the JDBC URL, like, try working over an
> SSL connection to a postgis database or
> add one of the many options the Oracle JDBC driver supports (memo to
> myself, we really should provide another connection
> mode allowing the advanced user to provide a full JDBC URL also for
> spatial database connections).
>
> Given that this is a enterprise feature (why setup a connection to an
> external database if clustering is not needed?)
> I believe it's better to err on the side of more control, instead of the
> side of easier setup, and that was also agreeing with
> the general lack of time context in which I've made this GWC 1.4
> integration.
>
Cool, thanks for the explanation Andrea. All that makes sense. I've been
hoping we can work to expose more of the GWC GUI options you mention. And
it sounds like a decent community goal would also be the datastore
improvements that you lay out. But this step you've made is huge, thanks
for doing the work.
>
>
>>
>> Also what's the state of documentation with this stuff? Again, no blocker
>> at all, best to get things in. We may be able to help out some with docs.
>> Things like when each of the locks might make sense, to help people choose,
>> and docs on the quota store configuration.
>>
>
> There is documentation in GWC regarding this, but I did not manage to make
> any for GeoServer
> so far, spent good part of the time I had lately to make the integration
> possible to start with:
> http://geowebcache.org/docs/current/production/index.html#clustering
>
> http://geowebcache.org/docs/current/configuration/diskquotas.html#disk-quota-storage
>
> The final deadline for new features is in 7 days, I don't believe I'll
> manage to add documentation:
> is there anyone interested in helping out?
>
>
I think OpenGeo may be planning to put some resources in to this. Probably
not in the next 7 days, but it seems like we just need to do it before the
final release, no? The functionality won't change, and we can just get the
docs better.
Chris
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
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