On 17/01/2013 17:50, Chris Holmes wrote:
> OpenLS would be a cool improvement to have as modules on GeoServer. Are

Glad to hear that.

> you doing all of the OpenLS services? Or just a subset? I feel like
> there's five or six, though I'm not sure if they're all useful. I think
> the most interesting ones to a wider audience are geocoding and routing.

Yes, they defined Reverse Geocoding, Presentation & Directory services, too.

We are going to develop Geocoding, Reverse Geocoding and Routing. ATM we 
are discussing with our client about Presentation usefulness, as we have 
some doubt about that.

> Both very big topics in themselves, with lots of potential for

Why didn't I ask before signing the contract? ;)

> innovation. My one naive advice is to be sure to keep your specification
> implementation nice and orthogonal to the backend, so that other
> developers can experiment with different implementations but all be able
> to easily meet the OpenLS spec requirements.

Requirements are very clear: we need to add an OpenLS interface to 
GeoServer and design a backend interface to make it pluggable.

> Also, are you looking at OpenTripPlanner at all?

That's one of the plugin required for Routing, along with pgRouting.

> this point. I need to look in to some others that people have sent in (I
> am at OpenPlans). When you do mail it if you could also email me a scan
> of it that could be helpful.

Sure I will. Thanks!

> Definitely do write up your design thoughts to the list. I'm not sure if

Ok, I will try.

At the moment we are going with this design: OLS module is the main 
module that implements the OpenLS services. It manages XML over 
HTTP/POST requests and dispatches them to the appropriate handler (one 
handler per OpenLS service).

Each handler reads its configuration from the GeoServer web console 
(OLS-WEB module), where you can set parameters like end point of backend 
web services, hostname of remote server and so on (I think you got the 
idea...)

A few plugin (will) exist to connect to various backends. They are:

- for Geocoding
   - RFC 59 (please read about this below)
   - SOLR

- for Reverse geocoding
   - SOLR

- for Routing
   - OTP
   - pgRouting

Each one will live in its own project and be activated automagically by 
Spring if it finds the JAR in the classpath.

Incidentally, we are also asked to develop ExtJS components to interact 
with an OpenLS server, but that's another story...

Questions, opinions, hints and flames are welcome!

> see what you were thinking when you built it. I'm also curious what
> RFC59 is, I couldn't find any reference online to it.

I can easily understand that :)

RFC59 is one of the Tuscany Region interoperability standard. Here in 
Tuscany the local government pays quite a lot of attention to technical 
definitions of standards regarding the various domains of their IT 
infrastructure.

They founded a board to discuss and standardize infrastructures, 
protocols and services, ranging from medical data interchange (based on 
HL7) to street networks.

So, RFC59 is Regione Toscana geocoder service. It's very small compared 
to OpenLS Geocoder Core Service, but it needs to be taken in account as 
our customer asked for that, both because he is a public one and because 
he wants to have the opportunity to check the Geocoding design against 
two backends.

I can give you the URL of the web site, but I'm afraid you'll need a 
quick Italian course to begin reading the docs ;)

> But yeah, stay in touch with the list, keep us updated on your plans and
> progress.

The plan is a very busy one: we need to deliver in a couple of months.

I would like to ask some more question, just for the ones that have been 
able to read all this concise email without falling asleep suddenly at 
line 3 :)

1. AFAIK, OpenLS binding is XML over HTTP/POST. Maybe there is a SOAP 
profile, too, but definitively no HTTP/GET method a-la WMS. So the 
service is not an OWS service in GeoServer terms, correct?

2. OpenLS may require authentication/authorization. Any hint on how to 
integrate in GeoServer one? I must admit that I didn't look at that yet...

Many thanks for your patience and support!

> Chris

Bye, UP



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