Hi Andrea,

The jira for "Honour the configured BBOX" issue is 
here(https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-6872).

GeoServer currently makes unnecessary database request to areas not covered 
under the bounding box of the dataset. And we had observed that  some wms 
queries take minutes to return and crashed the database(part of reason came 
from the oracle index problem) as well. This made us understanding that the 
query do need optimizing, especially in the situation that  there is a big map 
area query from a  small area’s dataset. Thus we thought that we can create  an 
option to improve the way it handles the query by limiting the query request to 
areas that falls within the bounding box of the dataset. Then we came out the 
ideal that do a BBOX check before the query is a simple ideal solution because 
it could filter out 90% useless query which is out of dataset BBOX scope.


Our initial solution is to do  a data BBOX check  in wms.GetMap module.  
Because it is an ideal place with easy accessing the dataset BBOX of every 
layer. It also has the access to query BBOX as well, thus we could easily do a 
overlap check to filter out the useless query which is majority of query. Plus 
by this way , I believe that all the WMS query performance could be well 
improved  no matter it is on oracle or sql .

I agree with you that we could do it on oracle datastore level in geotools 
providing other DB has no need at all. It could fix our oracle problem only 
without affecting others . with your expertise, could you help to pinpoint 
where we may have good access with dataset BBOX and query BBOX together in 
Geotools .

Lingbo

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Aime
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2015 8:12 AM
To: Tey, Victor (Mineral Resources, Kensington)
Cc: Geoserver-devel; Jiang, Lingbo (Digital, Marsfield)
Subject: Re: [Geoserver-devel] Propose to add an option for latLongBoundingBox 
range checking before database query.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:11 AM, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Andrea,

It seem like there might be some confusion with the different oracle issues 
floating around. The oracle version(https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-4912 
) issue has nothing to do with the patch Lingbo is suggesting on implementing. 
However to clear up the confusion, I have advised Lingbo to create appropriate 
Jira task and submit a proposal instead so that the issue can be discussed 
accordingly around the proposal instead.

Yes, indeed that ticket has nothing to do with it (actually I don't understand 
why you're bringing it up? Maybe you wanted to link a different ticket?)
But earlier in this thread you said (copying and pasting):


---------

What one of our developer have found with oracle enterprise edition is that the 
 database actually optimize the query when a query is made outside the bounds 
of the dataset. However when we ran the same query on a oracle standard 
edition, the query crashed the database. We have logged a ticket with Oracle as 
part of our contract with them and its currently under investigation.

---------

So, this statement makes me (and Jody) think your bbox problem problem is 
Oracle version specific.
In other words, can you show us how this new configuration would provide a 
_significant_ benefit with a non
broken database query optimizer? (yes, a theoretical general benefit is 
evident, you don't even access the data,
it has to be faster, but if we get only 0.1% speedup on the overall WMS/WFS 
request it's not worth the effort and the maintenance of that code).

Cheers
Andrea

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