On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <b...@transient.nz>
wrote:

> Andrea,
>
> Jody and I brainstormed GSIP-153 in today's (very small) committee
> meeting. In a nutshell, have you considered a single layer group class with
> many properties, rather than multiple classes of layer group? Jody made a
> nice table and we listed the properties in bullet points. We also discussed
> some naming changes. Please see the meeting notes.
>

I'm quite baffled and disconcerted... some chronology:

   - December 15th, initial discussion on the concept.
   
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Proposing-a-new-layer-group-type-why-make-do-with-4-when-you-can-have-5-td5299963.html
   Only feedback from Ben, who agrees on the concept and suggest to write a
   proposal. I wait a few days for people to provide feedback to inform the
   proposal (to avoid rewriting it), no feedback, time to move on.
   - December 19th, proposal in, by Dec 23rd there are more than enough
   votes, and one trivial request for name change (no problem there)

Given the lack of objections on both the mail and the proposal I start the
implementation on Dec 21th, the implementation is now basically ready
(still have to debug and fix some kinks):
https://github.com/aaime/geoserver/tree/lg_opaque_container

By a quick glance over the discussion in the other mail it seems that
actually:

   - You did not bother reading the first mail, or did not understand it
   - You did not bother reading/understanding or discussing the proposal
   (you'd not have questions now otherwise)

So what are the +1 you casted on the proposal worth?
The proposal mechanism, when it works, provides several beneficial
guarantees:

   - The community has a say on what gets implemented
   - The community has insurance that the work is resources and will be
   completed
   - The implementers knows they won't have to redo the design of their
   work from the ground up once the proposal is voted

The community has been given two occasions to discuss and bend the
proposal, and none was exploited. I'll now try to have a look at it, but my
budget is gone in the existing implementation (still only have a bit to
handle review comments). Would it be wrong of me to expect not simply
discussion but also coding and documentation help from those that changed
their mind now?

I'd really urge everybody to think _before_ casting a vote, not after doing
so. If you are unsure, it's also ok to ask for some time to think, just say
so in public.
If this case is an exception, well, that happens, but if it becomes common,
the proposal mechanism is basically dead and done for.

Cheers
Andrea

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