That is great news about AdoptOpenJDK, was not ware of anything other than
linux builds. Looks like both Eclipse and SAP are getting into offering
commercial support for OpenJDK. I am also annoyed that the LTS release is
only for paying customer ... grrr.
I still think we should plan for a winder code sprint (say October
timeframe) to fit in the window between Oracle Java 11 release, and Oracle
Java 8 EOL.
Aside: I am also taking to heart your comment on OpenJDK being faster
recently, making it hard to care about oracle turning language evolution
into a revenue stream :(
--
Jody Garnett
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 at 12:37, Andrea Aime <[email protected]>
wrote:
> HI,
> today I was looking at the State of GeoServer presentation and checking
> what's going on with
> the JDK 8 upgrades.
> I already heard bits and pieces before, but today I believe managed to
> piece it toghether.
>
> The short version is that Oracle JDK has become pretty much useless unless
> one is willing to pay for support:
>
> - Java 9 has reached its EOL already and it's now irrelevant
> - Java 10 will each its EOL in September and is basically irrelevant
> already
> - Oracle Java 11, released in Septemebr, will be a LTS (aaah!) but
> only for those that pay extended support (booh!), for anyone else it will
> be just another 6 months support release.
> - Rinse and repeat past Java 11, 12, and 13 no support at all past six
> months, 14 LTS only if one pays.
>
> See:
> https://medium.com/codefx-weekly/no-free-java-lts-version-b850192745fb
>
> Well... let's look at the bright side, if some organization is willing to
> be sucked up dry to get extended support, they should have
> more than enough extra to also sponsor GeoServer upgrades, no? ;-)
>
> And then there is OpenJDK and https://adoptopenjdk.net/
> AdoptOpenJDK does not provide any extended support for java 9 or 10. No
> news here. However,
> if their effort pans out, there are some interesting news:
>
> https://adoptopenjdk.net/support.html#roadmap
>
> In other words, OpenJDK 8 will be supported up until September 2022!
> And Java 11 will also be supported until September 2022.
> Also note that AdopdOpenJDK provides Windows and Mac releases too, for
> example (mind, untested):
> https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html?variant=openjdk8&jvmVariant=hotspot
>
> Has anyone already tried these builds?
>
> The funny thing is that even Oracle will provide a bit extra support for
> JDK 8, up until January 2019 for commercial users,
> and Dec 2020 for "personal end users":
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html
>
> Now, the Java 9 scare has not panned out, nobody really adopted it (see
> https://jaxenter.com/java-8-still-strong-java-10-142642.html ),
> Java 10 is equally irrelevant, but I guess it's probably time to start
> looking into java 11.. in a relaxed way though,
> the world is hopefully not ending this autumn*.
> Maybe a winter code sprint?
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
> *: the AdoptOpenJDK project seems to be at least partially volunteer
> based, but among the Tier-1 sponsors
> there are two interesting names, IBM and (gulp!) Microsoft Azure.
> Bit surprised not to see Redhat, I guess they will take advantage of the
> situation to promote even more
> their supported OS version with a bundled supported Java version.
>
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