That list Ian provide was to collect the results of saving a new Shapefiles
(representing query results). In this case you want to go back to the
original file and collect up some of the details...
--
Jody Garnett


On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 02:39, Hornby D. <d...@geodata.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Jody,
>
>
>
> If reclassifying my idea as a feature request then please do. I don’t see
> this as a major change to anything just a tweak to include an additional
> file if it exists.
>
>
>
> For your two questions, don’t know and don’t understand what you are
> asking.
>
>
>
> As for your ideas, idea 1 is exactly what I was thinking, simply include
> the xml file in the zip and if I have understood you correctly that is more
> of a tweak to GeoTools than anything to do with GeoServer? Ian’s response
> seems to hint that it could be a simple change in the code here (
> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/blob/master/src/wfs/src/main/java/org/geoserver/wfs/response/ShapeZipOutputFormat.java#L231)?
> Or is it a tweak to both systems?
>
>
>
> Your second idea was initially more interesting but when you look at that
> GeoTools page you provide a link to the additional files are either
> symbology files or indexing files. Indexes can easily be created by the end
> user and is less data to be storing and throwing around the internet and
> well I’m of the opinion that the colour scheme I like is never what you
> like or want so why include it. If a corporate styling is required that
> could be obtained via alternative means. So this focusses me back to idea 1
> which is simply include the xml file in the zipfile it is exists. This
> fulfils my desire to be supplying data with its metadata (if it has it).
> Idea 3 seems not appropriate to me?
>
>
>
> Duncan
>
>
>
> *From:* Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 08 August 2019 23:20
> *To:* Hornby D. <d...@geodata.soton.ac.uk>
> *Cc:* geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Geoserver-devel] I would like to propose the following
> improvement
>
>
>
> The real challenge is our community does not have any spare capacity to
> tackle new feature requests at present. However let's see if this is
> possible, incase you want to pursue this with a volunteer or service
> provider...
>
>
>
> Initially I think this would be a feature request - we tend to save
> proposals for strategic choices that impact application stability (and thus
> need to be voted on.)
>
>
>
> GeoServer by itself does not interact directly with Shapefiles, we use the
> GeoTools data access library. GeoTools, does not have any significant
> support for the shape file metadata file, so ...
>
>
>
> Q: Do you know if the ESRI the shp,xml file format is documented anywhere,
> or has been reverse engineered?
>
>
>
> Q: Does the shape file metadata xml file include the concept of bounds or
> a description of attributes? Both may of been modified or processed as part
> of a WFS request ...
>
>
>
> Options/Ideas:
>
>
>
> 1. Improve the GeoTools shape file representation
> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.geotools.org%2Fstable%2Fuserguide%2Flibrary%2Fdata%2Fshape.html&data=01%7C01%7Cddh%40geodata.soton.ac.uk%7C07d21b0586e946887b8b08d71c4ea232%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&sdata=pO7hfHLrn1cXXoiBkF8zn5yTO13lEcv%2F1gMcczC%2BKkI%3D&reserved=0>
> to communicate if an metadata xml file was present, allowing us to check if
> is present and blindly include the contents when zipping ...
>
>
>
> 2. Improve the GeoServer FeatureTypeInfo API, so any format can nominate
> files to be included when zipping. This would allow other things like a
> readme, sld, etc... to be packaged up if present. This would be an API
> change so a proposal would be required.
>
>
>
> 3. Create a new custom format that does exactly what you want ...
>
> --
>
> Jody Garnett
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 07:14, Hornby D. <d...@geodata.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Dear GeoServer,
>
>
>
> I have been directed to this mailing list as a place to propose an
> improvement. I had asked this question originally on GIS StackExchange
> thinking it was a geonetwork problem but a reply has pointed me to it being
> a GeoServer issue.
>
>
>
> My question is well documented in this Q&A thread (
> https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/329684/how-to-include-the-metadata-in-a-shapefile-download-from-geonetwork
> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgis.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F329684%2Fhow-to-include-the-metadata-in-a-shapefile-download-from-geonetwork&data=01%7C01%7Cddh%40geodata.soton.ac.uk%7C07d21b0586e946887b8b08d71c4ea232%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&sdata=Dd%2B6uRt4vdKk7b%2B3qtYf7dxFRTBr1%2FRfuGMRW8OqAeU%3D&reserved=0>)
> so please have a quick look at it to understand the issue.
>
>
>
> In summary I would like GeoServer to include the XML (metadata) file along
> with the rest of the files that are zipped up for a shapefile. I would
> typically document my dataset using ArcCatalog and that creates the
> additional XML file holding all the metadata. As I say in my question on
> GIS SE we get into a scenario of distributing datasets without any metadata
> which is not good!
>
>
>
> Ian’s reply seems to suggest a tweak in the source code could resolve
> this, but I’m neither a heavy user of github nor a web developer so I’m
> hoping this could be something that is added by someone way more competent
> than I!
>
>
>
> One thing I can think of is the xml file is not a mandatory part of a
> shapefile so the tweak to the source code would need to include it if it
> existed otherwise carry on zipping it up without failing.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Duncan
>
>
>
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